Ohokaman 5,851 Report post Posted August 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Lee270744 said: There are a few on here with a large dose of TDS that are stupid, clueless, moronic imbeciles. Obama and Biden spied on Trump team. PROVEN FFS. Collusion with Russia NO NOT PROVEN FFS. Learn to read everything FFS. Don't disappear on Nov 4th stay on here and show us what dumb looks like. You need to catch up with real news..not the Fox version you dumb fuck.... https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/20/donald-trump/donald-trump-repeats-false-claim-obama-spied-his-c/ https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/senate-russia-report-proves-trump-was-wrong-mueller-was-right-ncna1237743 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,851 Report post Posted August 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Lee270744 said: There are a few on here with a large dose of TDS that are stupid, clueless, moronic imbeciles. Obama and Biden spied on Trump team. PROVEN FFS. Collusion with Russia NO NOT PROVEN FFS. Learn to read everything FFS. Don't disappear on Nov 4th stay on here and show us what dumb looks like. Can’t wait for all of you Trump parasites to slither back under your rocks in November. Then wait for the “Hoax, Rigged,Mail fraud...” cries..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 1 1,386 Report post Posted August 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Ohokaman said: You need to catch up with real news..not the Fox version you dumb fuck.... https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/20/donald-trump/donald-trump-repeats-false-claim-obama-spied-his-c/ https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/senate-russia-report-proves-trump-was-wrong-mueller-was-right-ncna1237743 How much bullshit can you post. The very people connected to the spying are telling the idiots fake news and those idiots are lapping it up. Maybe take a look at the declassified documents that have been released recently and you will find the truth. That's right the sheep let fake news tell them lies. Now run along and put that mask on and don't forget to wash your hand or that big bad flu will come after you. Midget 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,702 Report post Posted August 23, 2020 Robert Gates,Secretary of Defence under Bush and Obama said in his memoir in 2014 the following regarding Biden.... "" BEEN WRONG ON NEARLY EVERY MAJOR FOREIGN POLICY AND NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE OVER THE LAST 4 DECADES"" This started with his not supporting the resettlement of South Vietnamese people in the USA. Those poor yanks,what a selection dilemma they have.Would someone else please step up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,851 Report post Posted August 24, 2020 Funny....Sad but true..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,851 Report post Posted August 24, 2020 44 minutes ago, 100 1 said: How much bullshit can you post. The very people connected to the spying are telling the idiots fake news and those idiots are lapping it up. Maybe take a look at the declassified documents that have been released recently and you will find the truth. That's right the sheep let fake news tell them lies. Now run along and put that mask on and don't forget to wash your hand or that big bad flu will come after you. Get back down to WINZ...they have a Janitors job for you.....you post enough so might as well clean it up..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,851 Report post Posted August 24, 2020 New T shirt for all you clowns.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted August 24, 2020 I’m not a fan of Trumps nor Biden for that matter. But it’s a tough choice for Americans to decide who they want as their President. Americans are very patriotic and usually, will defend their Institutions, their freedom and their President. In Biden, they don’t have much choice. It’s going to be closer than the polls show and with the average Yank sick of the lawlessness of the the “Progressives” (or Leftie Loonies as many refer to them as), Trump is a big chance - especially if the Debates go ahead. He’s a horrible man but Don’t count him out yet! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,851 Report post Posted August 24, 2020 Here’s a good start...... https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/23/politics/kellyanne-conway-george-conway-white-house-lincoln-project/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,851 Report post Posted August 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Trump said: I’m not a fan of Trumps nor Biden for that matter. But it’s a tough choice for Americans to decide who they want as their President. Americans are very patriotic and usually, will defend their Institutions, their freedom and their President. In Biden, they don’t have much choice. It’s going to be closer than the polls show and with the average Yank sick of the lawlessness of the the “Progressives” (or Leftie Loonies as many refer to them as), Trump is a big chance - especially if the Debates go ahead. He’s a horrible man but Don’t count him out yet! I see the clown is going to appear every day of the Republican Convention....can’t help himself. Just more opportunity for him to say something dumb. Biden may not be the “ideal” choice but he’s an experienced, decent human being who cares about people....and he won’t back down in any debate either....for anyone who has watched Trump take America’s World reputation apart, divide its people and denigrate its institutions over the past four years, the decision is a no brainer. As for that other arse licker Pence..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted August 24, 2020 Yes, I agree on Pence. But really, VP is only important if there’s an assassination or A fatal plane crash etc. take Biden’s running mate. Can you imagine who as a Potus? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,851 Report post Posted August 24, 2020 Classic...what it’s like in Trumps head...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,851 Report post Posted August 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Trump said: Yes, I agree on Pence. But really, VP is only important if there’s an assassination or A fatal plane crash etc. take Biden’s running mate. Can you imagine who as a Potus? She would be as good as Pence so what’s the difference ? Pence should be worried I reckon...I see Nikki Haley is due to speak, although given the others on the list, no great recommendation, but you could imagine a scenario where, if Trump thought for a minute that it would get him re elected, he would replace Pence with her as VP. Being a female the obvious problem there...and being smarter probably....but he’d do it in a heartbeat and worry about it later.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,851 Report post Posted August 24, 2020 Some light reading for the Q Anon nutters on here.....the last two sentences are the important ones for America.... That rings true for NSW Central Coast resident James* who noticed his mother's growing interest in QAnon around April this year, just as the COVID-19 lockdown went into effect. Since then James says his mother and parts of his extended family have "gone down the rabbit hole," and this has driven a wedge between him and them, as well as putting strain on his own mental health. His mother has had a long interest in alternative medicine and spiritual healing, as well as financial content on YouTube such as how to invest in cryptocurrencies. James thinks the video platform may have led her to this more extreme content, but the "exact catalyst" for her new views remains unclear. "My mother is also the type of person who influences the people around her … which is why a lot of immediate family members share her beliefs," he said. If someone believes in a conspiracy theory, they do tend to entertain more than one, according to Karen Douglas, a professor of social psychology at the University of Kent. "These sorts of beliefs can start to fit together," she said. "You probably feel like you're piecing together parts of a puzzle." Marc-André Argentino, a QAnon researcher at Concordia University in Canada, said Australia could be considered part of a "five eyes" of QAnon — a reference to the intelligence sharing network between Australia, the UK, US, Canada and New Zealand. All five countries are majority English-speaking, allowing messages to flow easily online. All share a similar political vocabulary, and all are experiencing the turmoil of a global pandemic. And by its very nature, QAnon is participatory, Mr Argentino suggested, taking clues from pop culture and news clips of Mr Trump. Anyone can offer input and play the game, no matter where they're based or what language they speak. Meanwhile, Paul believes the sheer spectacle of the US in Australia's news cycle plays a role. "It's entertaining, it's theatrical. Can you imagine an Australian politician carrying on like Donald Trump? It's probably the only place you can see a show like that," he said. Can people be talked out of QAnon? James has discussed QAnon with his family but said he can't convince them to give it up. He's now contemplating a move out of home for his own mental health. "I can't refute them on anything as they usually claim anything I say that isn't from their conspiratorial sources, aka the "mainstream media," is false, and any peer-reviewed scientific documents are false," he said. "I don't want to entrench their beliefs by trying to refute them." Likewise, Paul doesn't want to lose his friend Antony and has turned to works by Mick West, a science writer who has written about how to debunk conspiracy theories, for clues about how to be there for his friend. "To prioritise the relationship above all else and not end up in a squabble that is going to degenerate," he said. "You can't reason with fact. They'll take it personally as a challenge." If someone is committed to a conspiracy theory and it becomes part of their identity, it can be very difficult to talk them out of it. The role of evidence is completely altered, according to Stephan Lewandowsky, a professor of cognitive science at the University of Bristol. It's a self-sealing belief system. Whatever evidence there is or isn't will be taken to confirm the theory. "The absence of evidence is reinterpreted as evidence without batting an eyelid," he said. Before attempting to talk to someone about their conspiratorial beliefs, Dr Lewandowsky said it's important to understand how far they've gone "into that tunnel". "If they are all the way down, you're trying to deprogram someone who is in a cult. It's like deprogramming a terrorist," he said. Establishing a rapport with the person is vital, as is showing empathy. Affirming the positive value of scepticism can also become a potential entry point for conversation. You're dealing with someone who feels alienated and different from other people, Dr Douglas said. "Strategies like going in hard with hostile arguments or making fun of the person, ridiculing them, is not going to help." Dr Lewandowsky also cautioned that in general, the number of people who subscribe wholly to conspiratorial beliefs is small. Conspiracy theorists often overestimate the number of fellow travellers, so we must be careful not to do the same. And while the social media platforms have played a significant role in spreading QAnon regardless of national borders, Mr Argentino believes the spread of the theory into countries like Australia is ultimately a very human problem. "It's a response to human insecurity," he said. "Regular sources of comfort and information aren't enough for these people, or they aren't available." QAnon feeds off the internet, but at its core it is still patched together from ancient, often anti-Semitic tropes of scapegoats and saviours that inevitably flare up during times of disruption. Perhaps it's comforting to believe that someone somewhere must be responsible for our pain. To contain this, we must change the politics and give people back a "sense of stability", agreed Dr Lewandowsky. "You've got have a better picture for the future, but that's where the challenge is." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 1 1,386 Report post Posted August 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: Some light reading for the Q Anon nutters on here.....the last two sentences are the important ones for America.... That rings true for NSW Central Coast resident James* who noticed his mother's growing interest in QAnon around April this year, just as the COVID-19 lockdown went into effect. Since then James says his mother and parts of his extended family have "gone down the rabbit hole," and this has driven a wedge between him and them, as well as putting strain on his own mental health. His mother has had a long interest in alternative medicine and spiritual healing, as well as financial content on YouTube such as how to invest in cryptocurrencies. James thinks the video platform may have led her to this more extreme content, but the "exact catalyst" for her new views remains unclear. "My mother is also the type of person who influences the people around her … which is why a lot of immediate family members share her beliefs," he said. If someone believes in a conspiracy theory, they do tend to entertain more than one, according to Karen Douglas, a professor of social psychology at the University of Kent. "These sorts of beliefs can start to fit together," she said. "You probably feel like you're piecing together parts of a puzzle." Marc-André Argentino, a QAnon researcher at Concordia University in Canada, said Australia could be considered part of a "five eyes" of QAnon — a reference to the intelligence sharing network between Australia, the UK, US, Canada and New Zealand. All five countries are majority English-speaking, allowing messages to flow easily online. All share a similar political vocabulary, and all are experiencing the turmoil of a global pandemic. And by its very nature, QAnon is participatory, Mr Argentino suggested, taking clues from pop culture and news clips of Mr Trump. Anyone can offer input and play the game, no matter where they're based or what language they speak. Meanwhile, Paul believes the sheer spectacle of the US in Australia's news cycle plays a role. "It's entertaining, it's theatrical. Can you imagine an Australian politician carrying on like Donald Trump? It's probably the only place you can see a show like that," he said. Can people be talked out of QAnon? James has discussed QAnon with his family but said he can't convince them to give it up. He's now contemplating a move out of home for his own mental health. "I can't refute them on anything as they usually claim anything I say that isn't from their conspiratorial sources, aka the "mainstream media," is false, and any peer-reviewed scientific documents are false," he said. "I don't want to entrench their beliefs by trying to refute them." Likewise, Paul doesn't want to lose his friend Antony and has turned to works by Mick West, a science writer who has written about how to debunk conspiracy theories, for clues about how to be there for his friend. "To prioritise the relationship above all else and not end up in a squabble that is going to degenerate," he said. "You can't reason with fact. They'll take it personally as a challenge." If someone is committed to a conspiracy theory and it becomes part of their identity, it can be very difficult to talk them out of it. The role of evidence is completely altered, according to Stephan Lewandowsky, a professor of cognitive science at the University of Bristol. It's a self-sealing belief system. Whatever evidence there is or isn't will be taken to confirm the theory. "The absence of evidence is reinterpreted as evidence without batting an eyelid," he said. Before attempting to talk to someone about their conspiratorial beliefs, Dr Lewandowsky said it's important to understand how far they've gone "into that tunnel". "If they are all the way down, you're trying to deprogram someone who is in a cult. It's like deprogramming a terrorist," he said. Establishing a rapport with the person is vital, as is showing empathy. Affirming the positive value of scepticism can also become a potential entry point for conversation. You're dealing with someone who feels alienated and different from other people, Dr Douglas said. "Strategies like going in hard with hostile arguments or making fun of the person, ridiculing them, is not going to help." Dr Lewandowsky also cautioned that in general, the number of people who subscribe wholly to conspiratorial beliefs is small. Conspiracy theorists often overestimate the number of fellow travellers, so we must be careful not to do the same. And while the social media platforms have played a significant role in spreading QAnon regardless of national borders, Mr Argentino believes the spread of the theory into countries like Australia is ultimately a very human problem. "It's a response to human insecurity," he said. "Regular sources of comfort and information aren't enough for these people, or they aren't available." QAnon feeds off the internet, but at its core it is still patched together from ancient, often anti-Semitic tropes of scapegoats and saviours that inevitably flare up during times of disruption. Perhaps it's comforting to believe that someone somewhere must be responsible for our pain. To contain this, we must change the politics and give people back a "sense of stability", agreed Dr Lewandowsky. "You've got have a better picture for the future, but that's where the challenge is." Idiot Show me a hit piece that actually shows and discusses a series of posts You can't.... because you post fake news....these people are desperate Enemy of the people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,851 Report post Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, 100 1 said: Idiot Show me a hit piece that actually shows and discusses a series of posts You can't.... because you post fake news....these people are desperate Enemy of the people The Village idiot appears again....conspiracy theorist so far down the hole with the other Mad Hatters..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,851 Report post Posted August 24, 2020 To contain this, we must change the politics and give people back a "sense of stability", agreed Dr Lewandowsky. "You've got have a better picture for the future, but that's where the challenge is." And this crap is what Trump comes up with....more of the same. John King takes it apart.... https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/24/politics/trump-nomination-rnc/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 1 1,386 Report post Posted August 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: The Village idiot appears again....conspiracy theorist so far down the hole with the other Mad Hatters..... Show me a Q hit piece that shows some of the 4600 odd posts You can't you big fraud.... with zero facts Zero facts = zero credibility Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uriah Heap 481 Report post Posted August 25, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 11:47 AM, crustyngrizzly said: Those poor yanks,what a selection dilemma they have.Would someone else please step up. It's a pitiful choice alright!! However, observing from afar, the USA looks like a country that needs to pull together. That will not occur under President Trump. He is reactive, confrontational and divisive. The statistics show he has not led the country well in the Covid crisis, making any number of poor statements. Joe Biden might look like he has one foot in the grave, but he is the better alternative in a race between two very poor horses. PS. I will definitely still be on here after 4 Nov, no matter who is victorious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6xes 699 Report post Posted August 25, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 12:01 PM, Ohokaman said: Funny....Sad but true..... sad but true?? i cannot believe you still trash post stuff like this Ohaka to think you once may have had a modicum of understanding in politics.. and now this?? and the Mainstream media are voicing concern over the Q conspiracy?? while nut jobs make BS videos like this?? for real?? are you serious?? LOL I guess fly's tend to be attracted to such videos!! Ohokaman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,851 Report post Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, 6xes said: sad but true?? i cannot believe you still trash post stuff like this Ohaka to think you once may have had a modicum of understanding in politics.. and now this?? and the Mainstream media are voicing concern over the Q conspiracy?? while nut jobs make BS videos like this?? for real?? are you serious?? LOL I guess fly's tend to be attracted to such videos!! I wouldn’t expect anything else from you.....that video has more reality than Q and the Republicans....have you seen the lunatics on today...?? This is for you and the other bible basher hypocrites...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,851 Report post Posted August 25, 2020 4 hours ago, 100 1 said: Show me a Q hit piece that shows some of the 4600 odd posts You can't you big fraud.... with zero facts Zero facts = zero credibility How ironic...how many posts have you put on here pushing your racist bullshit and conspiracies...?? Lots of “facts” in those but nothing ever happens....does it....?? Lots of bullshit = zero credibility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,851 Report post Posted August 25, 2020 On 8/23/2020 at 10:22 PM, 100 1 said: IDIOT Only idiots like you get sucked in by fake hit jobs....unbelievable Yeah that footage of your clown mate getting arrested looked really fake.....those cops with guns looked pretty real though.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6xes 699 Report post Posted August 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: I wouldn’t expect anything else from you.....that video has more reality than Q and the Republicans....have you seen the lunatics on today...?? This is for you and the other bible basher hypocrites...... your tendancy to believe everything that has been posted on the internet... is typical of someone who readily believes the "LIES" A picture is worth a 1000 words!! if you "knew & understood" what President Donald Trump has changed to support Evangelicals or Christianity, you would gauge the post you presented as nothing but a LOAD OF BS propaganda for the purposes of maintaining the ongoing lies!! It seems to me, that when someone chooses to live in a trashcan, theres always the diffuculty of knowing what is Trash and what is not Trash!! Go figure!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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