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  1. Race 8 start at oamaru.

    I see the horse that was stood down until it trials is in the official fields published for Friday night. I see it is to trial on Wednesday. I guess that means you can still get in race fields while officially stood down. Obviously being eligible to race at the time fields are published is irrelevant.
  2. Election facts

    You have not addressed the point I made about your double standard. You clearly are seeing things from the standpoint of a National supporter ,fair enough ,even if it is a bit condescending.
  3. Tough penalty

    The penalty does not seem that bad when you consider who the trainer was dealing with. This fellows well documented life would make a good tv series. I see he even reportedly at one stage tried to arrange a hit on a private investigator who had uncovered some of his stash. Maybe they should have his horses transferred into the maids name. She apparently according to foster would have no trouble paying the training fee as it is alleged shes gone missing about the same time as some of his money that was buried in his backyard.
  4. Election facts

    Time will tell. You appear to have double standards ohokaman. You've highlighted the steps National took to seek revenge on Winston, without you offering any criticism then in the next statement suggest Winston would be " bitter and twisted ..." if he sought revenge. Personally I am happy with the way things turned out. I've always got the impression Winston prefers the labour coalition, its just the results as they currently are have complicated things. Would you rather work with a team who respects you,or one in which many members can't stand you? As a Winston supporter I prefer labour,but don't mind either way,. The problem I see for him if he goes with national will be he will lose some of his support base.
  5. Race 8 start at oamaru.

    Having watched the start of this race can anyone explain why the starter waited about 6 minutes for a couple of horses to line up,then completely gave up on that idea and let the race start with 2 horses completely out of play, one about 150m behind them. If the original starts were not good enough then why let them go when he did when things were worse. Is there some sought of time limit whereby everything changes. Why were they not late scratched? What about the punters. One was 2nd favourite,the other 6th favourite. Also why the difference in action over the horses. One was stood down to trial but not made unruly, the other made unruly but not stood down.
  6. Election facts

    Yes a heck of a lot of nurses locally have been imported from overseas. I'm no expert,but working in rest homes does not appear to be where locally trained nurses want to end up. I googled the nurse thing at the time of reading the labour idea and found in 2014 it was being predicted by health authorities that there may be a nursing shortage by 2017 as numbers trained prior to 2014 had not been enough and the call for greater numbers to be trained had been ignored in the years leading up to 2014. This was in part contradicted by a couple of more recent articles written by imported overseas nurses who stated those coming from overseas could expect to work in rest homes as there was no nursing shortage in nz and rest home employers may take advantage of you. My take from that was National simply did not have the foresight to see that problem coming, similar to the tradesmen shortage and its solution was simply to import foreign labour which had simply exasperated problems in other areas.Giving locally trained nurses greater incentives was not nationals answer,instead importing cheaper employees . I thought the Labour policy of having a nurse in secondary schools was in part there to help with the growing youth mental health problem ,another area National underfunded. The maori seats is interesting. I read earlier this year there was expected to be more Asians than maori's in nz by the end of next year. We know from the results the maori people felt let down by National,on the other side of the coin I wonder what percentage of Asians voted national.
  7. Election facts

    This election just confirms most vote for whats best for themselves. Just the way it is in the real world. Personally I had thought there may have been greater empathy shown towards the working class who struggle to get by, but I suppose 46% are happy with the way things are. Depends what your job is I suppose. Cant see things improving for the working familes on the low wages if National continue to lead,although I suppose it will be what happens in overseas economies which ultimately dictates how tough it will be here if you are already on struggle street.
  8. australian penalites

    Fair comment. The authorities now days in NSW certainly seem to do a good job, shame about some of the participants honesty. It seems ingrained in many participants psyche. One of the worst things in NSW is they don't have a passing lane and some are easily pulled by going on the fence.
  9. australian penalites

    I see Nathan Turnbull,son of steve turnbull has been disqualified in NSW for 2 1/2 years for a horse he trains having cocaine in its system. Apparently they got someone to admit they were a cocaine user who accompanied the horse to the races. They always do. That family are having a bad 12 months of publicity. Really I don't know why anyone bothers with harness racing over there. Whenever I watch races over there many of them seem dishonest and some clearly race like they are on drugs,eyes popping out.. Same old,same old. Not hard to predict.
  10. 3 more drivers punished by stupid whip rule

    Using your example maybe they should have the same steps type system. 250 micrograms of alcohol per litre of breath is the legal limit for anyone 20 or older,but you only get a $200 fine and 50 demerits if between 250 to 400mcg. Over 400mcg and you go to court where you are disqualified from driving and either fined or given some other sentence. If we apply the principle you are arguing, which I believe makes a lot of sense, there could be some more lenient penalty ,say $150 fine for between say 10 to 12 strikes, with suspension only being suitable in those cases if a previous history has existed. Anything 13 strikes or over could be say a $300 fine and/or a suspension. I think Eljay had a suggestion at one stage along similar lines. Personally I don't think the whip needs used much at all.For example If you look at the horse Still of the night. Mr keast got fined at rangiora, then he changed at addington to a much softer approach, limiting his whip action. At addington the horse responded just as well with a nice finish. Good drivers like that don't really need to hit them much ,they still run for them either way. Same as the Nathan Williamson case. Hes good enough as well to not need to overuse the whip
  11. Raymond Reekie Ban - March 2020

    Think you have misunderstood Nigel. I,nor have I read anyone else on here, are or has defended the reekie drive. All comments have been regarding the penalty. If your referring to that style of driving, the same thing happened in race 8 and clearly cost the 2nd horse an easy win. It happens,its racing.
  12. Raymond Reekie Ban - March 2020

    It takes two to tango and Mr edge in my opinion showed poor judgment as well for allowing it to go on for so long,and he should have got a mention in the stipes report. You may be correct about his horse originally pulling a bit early on but the video does not confirm that his horse was being restrained at all. Having said that his horse did stick on very well for fourth,perhaps too well for its own future good. I wonder if either of them actually knew how fast they were going?.Thats where the fault lay.
  13. Who will pay attention to this first? punters or stipes?

    Stuff like that deserves an explanation as you have pointed out. The biggest con in harness racing is the scratching penalty rule. Week after week you have multiple horses scratched, stood down for 4 days with a vets certificate provided and then nominated,often next day for the following weeks races. Some are genuine,some are not. I often wonder whether some of these sucker owners are paying for the vets certificate,or whether some stables get them issued cheaply or for free because of their frequent use. A simple way to get rid of this obvious con that some stables and some vets are perpetrating is to have the vets certify they have actually seen the horse concerned ,to state what the reason is and the expected recovery time and for a copy of their bill for said services to be attached. Or have a standard stand down time of say 10 days which can only be reduced by the producing of a vets certificate saying they are able to race.Either that or abolish the stupid rule. Otherwise it will continue to be one big con..
  14. Raymond Reekie Ban - March 2020

    I guess if you look from the glass half full perspective it shows the maximum penalties for similar offences are currently set about right. Also from the reaction on racecafe it appears everyone realises people like ray reekie have a place in the sport,and if they put in the time, money and abide by the rules then they should be treated fairly. Ive always credited punters with enough intelligence to realise the level of skill shown in an amateurs race will not normally be as high as when professionals are driving. From betting figures it does not appear to effect turnovers at all, perhaps because the bigger fields in the amateurs have some reasonable odds on offer. Mr reekie does raise an interesting point about the met multiplier. Why does the addington club exclude them from that scheme. One can only conclude because it is set up to suit some more than others. Double standards it seems.
  15. Raymond Reekie Ban - March 2020

    That's a bit tough and a bit silly.. If he suffered interference and was denied a fair start and was scratched as a result then that's not any fault of the driver. Do agree in circumstances like that connections should be paid a starting fee.
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