grandad47 48 Report post Posted April 17, 2018 If you look at the Oaks selection policy for our sister codes, our selection policy is a shambles and reeks of cronyism. This nonsense has to stop. GRNZ have to take ownership of this industry. Leaving it to vested interests does not work. Ray Amer. Eagle Eye and yorky 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmccook1 2,359 Report post Posted April 17, 2018 1 hour ago, grandad47 said: If you look at the Oaks selection policy for our sister codes, our selection policy is a shambles and reeks of cronyism. This nonsense has to stop. GRNZ have to take ownership of this industry. Leaving it to vested interests does not work. Ray Amer. that's a bold statement Ray, I thought the CHCH club has a fair criteria policy. So your accusation is certain kennels are getting looked after? Eagle Eye 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOM 1,017 Report post Posted April 17, 2018 I must be missing something here Ray as your posts are usually of a high standard, Are you upset about national selection criteria for age races or individual clubs applying them? With five heats and no reserves and one vacant box and class one to five selected I am unable to see who has missed out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted April 17, 2018 14 hours ago, grandad47 said: If you look at the Oaks selection policy for our sister codes, our selection policy is a shambles and reeks of cronyism. This nonsense has to stop. GRNZ have to take ownership of this industry. Leaving it to vested interests does not work. Ray Amer. Please explain. jasonmccook1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Eye 231 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 18 hours ago, GOM said: I must be missing something here Ray as your posts are usually of a high standard, Are you upset about national selection criteria for age races or individual clubs applying them? With five heats and no reserves and one vacant box and class one to five selected I am unable to see who has missed out No disrespect but this is a group1 45k race, now we have spasticks in the race who have no chance and can crash into a top doggys who can be injured etc, c1 sprinters should not be allowed a go lets get real, they look like they have given homage to the favourite flavours to be, saying that I really don't care but see what Ray is saying all the best to all cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 There are 2 c1 sprinter in the heats are you scared of them ? Ray you have raylene in the heats c1 ! Eagle Eye 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Eye 231 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, I know said: There are 2 c1 sprinter in the heats are you scared of them ? Ray you have raylene in the heats c1 ! very Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandad47 48 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 If you Google the selection policy for their Oaks in our sister codes and compare it with ours, then maybe you will share my view that ours is indeed a shambles. It is not about who is in the race but how they got there. T?he Oaks should be showcasing our best performed bitches. Ray Amer gary1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 So raylene is one of our best performers ? You own the dog do you think she should be there ? jasonmccook1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmccook1 2,359 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Eagle Eye said: No disrespect but this is a group1 45k race, now we have spasticks in the race who have no chance and can crash into a top doggys who can be injured etc, c1 sprinters should not be allowed a go lets get real, they look like they have given homage to the favourite flavours to be, saying that I really don't care but see what Ray is saying all the best to all cheers that's a bit harsh Wazza. shouldn't every dog get a chance. If you were on the other end with a class 1 dog I bet you would have a different view Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandad47 48 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 I. know. You obviously don’t understand what this thread is all.obout certainly not about me or my dogs, Kind Regards Ray Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmccook1 2,359 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 18 minutes ago, grandad47 said: I. know. You obviously don’t understand what this thread is all.obout certainly not about me or my dogs, Kind Regards Ray well Ray why don't you just stop talking in riddles and tell everyone what you are on about, saves assumptions then Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 45 minutes ago, grandad47 said: I. know. You obviously don’t understand what this thread is all.obout certainly not about me or my dogs, Kind Regards Ray No this is why in a earlier post Ray I asked you to please explain your original post. From what I could gather it was about lower class dogs drawn into the oaks heats , then you come back and said we should be showcasing our best preformed bitches in these r/a heats and I simply asked if your girl was or was not one of them . Maybe you should kindly explain your original post so we all know where we are at in this regard. Thanks GOM and jasonmccook1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 40 minutes ago, jasonmccook1 said: well Ray why don't you just stop talking in riddles and tell everyone what you are on about, saves assumptions then Jason ray has his opinions why should you reply are you a trainer or owner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandad47 48 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 Sorry you don’t no where you are perhaps if you leave your name and phone l will do my best to help Kind. Regards. Ray jasonmccook1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 6 hours ago, Eagle Eye said: No disrespect but this is a group1 45k race, now we have spasticks in the race who have no chance and can crash into a top doggys who can be injured etc, c1 sprinters should not be allowed a go lets get real, they look like they have given homage to the favourite flavours to be, saying that I really don't care but see what Ray is saying all the best to all cheers have you got one in the race Eagle Eye 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 What has that got to do with anything? You started this thread I just asked you to explain your thoughts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Eye 231 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 5 hours ago, jasonmccook1 said: that's a bit harsh Wazza. shouldn't every dog get a chance. If you were on the other end with a class 1 dog I bet you would have a different view I wouldn’t have ago with a c1 at a group1 doesn’t deserve ago Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOM 1,017 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 Fanta Bale was class one at one stage jasonmccook1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmccook1 2,359 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 15 hours ago, gary1 said: Jason ray has his opinions why should you reply are you a trainer or owner its an open forum is it not gary didn't see the owner/trainer clause to reply? so until that clause is in place I will continue to reply. have a great day its the vague accusation that is confusing everyone I think Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmccook1 2,359 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 12 hours ago, Eagle Eye said: I wouldn’t have ago with a c1 at a group1 doesn’t deserve ago I would have to disagree there. if you had a dog who run the hands of the clock you would enter!!!! so you are saying Fahey's dog who run 29.90 ish in a maiden race and now is a C1 should not have bothered entering the oaks? Eagle Eye 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alltheway!!! 640 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, jasonmccook1 said: I would have to disagree there. if you had a dog who run the hands of the clock you would enter!!!! so you are saying Fahey's dog who run 29.90 ish in a maiden race and now is a C1 should not have bothered entering the oaks? If she makes the final. She wont have any chance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Eye 231 Report post Posted April 18, 2018 15 hours ago, gary1 said: have you got one in the race Sure have Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Eye 231 Report post Posted April 19, 2018 3 hours ago, jasonmccook1 said: I would have to disagree there. if you had a dog who run the hands of the clock you would enter!!!! so you are saying Fahey's dog who run 29.90 ish in a maiden race and now is a C1 should not have bothered entering the oaks? Its not the issue running low grade dogs in a group one lowers the standard of a group1, only my opinion, the said dog is the only c1 that can run that time this year true, no other year have they done this allowing so many heats to get c1s in, I don't care myself, I'm confident, saying that mine will have to come out or we are in trouble the way the dogs are drawn, just nice to have one there, cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted April 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Eagle Eye said: Sure have really so you finally bought a share in one Eagle Eye 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...