Melbourne Cup - Top 24 acceptances yet ?

[Pottsie 58]

Just wondering if there was somewhere yet with the top 24 acceptances for big cup.

I realise it could change after this weekends racing. Just want to put a lazy $5er on a roughie but least want a starters chance if in field at momment.

Thanks

[bblunt 334]

Just wondering if there was somewhere yet with the top 24 acceptances for big cup.

I realise it could change after this weekends racing. Just want to put a lazy $5er on a roughie but least want a starters chance if in field at momment.

Thanks

Can't help you with the top 24 but Americain's a definite starter and a massive chance at $13 currently

[PushTheButton 0]

1

SO YOU THINK (NZ) (Bart Cummings)

4

h

56.0

Yes

-2.0

Passed

2

DESCARADO (NZ) (Gai Waterhouse)

4

g

54.0kg inc 1.5kg pen

Yes

-4.0

Passed

3

SHOCKING (Mark Kavanagh)

5

h

57.0

No

-2.5

Passed

4

SHOOT OUT (John Wallace)

4

g

55.0

No

-3.0

Passed

5

METAL BENDER (NZ) (Chris Waller)

5

g

56.0

No

-3.5

Passed

6

CAMPANOLOGIST (USA) (Saeed bin Suroor)

6

h

56.0

No

-3.5

Passed

7

ZIPPING (Robert Hickmott)

9

g

55.5

No

-4.0

Passed

8

MONACO CONSUL (NZ) (Michael Moroney)

4

h

54.0

No

-4.0

Passed

9

PROFOUND BEAUTY (IRE) (Dermot Weld)

7

m

54.0

No

-4.0

Passed

10

MR MEDICI (IRE) (Peter Ho)

6

h

55.0

No

-4.5

Passed

11

FAINT PERFUME (Bart Cummings)

4

m

52.0

No

-4.5

Passed

12

ILLUSTRIOUS BLUE (GB) (William Knight)

8

h

55.0

No

-4.5

Passed

13

TOKAI TRICK (JPN) (Kenji Nonaka)

9

h

54.5

No

-5.0

Passed

14

AMERICAIN (USA) (Alain de Royer Dupre)

6

h

54.5 inc 0.5kg pen

No

-5.0

Passed

15

DARIANA (Bart Cummings)

4

m

51.5

No

-5.0

Passed

16

ONCE WERE WILD (Gai Waterhouse)

4

m

51.5

No

-5.0

Passed

17

ZAVITE (NZ) (Anthony Cummings)

8

g

54.0

No

-5.5

Passed

18

HARRIS TWEED (NZ) (Murray & Bjorn Baker)

5

g

54.0

No

-5.5

Passed

19

MASTER O'REILLY (NZ) (Danny O'Brien)

8

g

54.0

No

-5.5

Passed

20

C'EST LA GUERRE (NZ) (Robert Hickmott)

6

g

54.0

No

-5.5

Passed

21

MANIGHAR (FR) (Luca Cumani)

5

g

54.0

No

-5.5

Passed

22

BUCCELLATI (GB) (Tony Noonan)

7

h

54.0

No

-5.5

Passed

23

JESSICABEEL (NZ) (John O'Shea)

5

m

52.5

No

-5.5

Passed

24

BAUER (IRE) (Luca Cumani)

8

h

53.5

No

-6.0

[PushTheButton 0]

That didn't come out as expected

Link http://www.racenet.com.au/news/640/64083.asp

[fymrc 0]

I think the winner of the SAAB race this saturday gains automatic entry into the MC. or they use to !!.

[PushTheButton 0]

Correct, they're exempt from the ballot along with the Mackinnon winner, SYT and Descarado.

Mackinnon winner will probably either already be guaranteed a Cup run or won't be in it at all. That's why the Lexus is so hot this time around

[Properispomenon 1]

The list of rcaes that automatically qualify you for a non-ballotting position is:

The winner of the following, if any should be a nomination and a first, second, third and final acceptor for the 2010 Emirates Melbourne Cup, shall be exempt from any ballot on this race:

‐ 2010 VRC The Lexus Stakes

‐ 2010 VRC AAMI Victoria Derby

‐ 2010 VRC Mackinnon Stakes

‐ 2010 MVRC Cox Plate

‐ 2010 MRC Caulfield Cup

‐ 2010 Irish St Leger (IRE)

‐ 2010 Tenno Sho (Spring) (JPN)

‐ 2010 ARB Australian Stayers Challenge

The top three of those are all run this Saturday...

[PushTheButton 0]

Forgot about the Derby, as it would be unlikely I guess. When was the last time a VRC winner backed up? Efficient was scratched

[Properispomenon 1]

You didn't really forget the Derby, PTB...

The VRC this year abolished that clause that gave the Derby winner automatic late entry to the Cup field if it was declared after its win...

Now that winner will have had to have been an entrant, first acceptor, second acceptor and third acceptor to get into the field...

I'm not sure that any 3-year-old in the Derby field will have been so accepted...

[Centrofold 147]

. Horse Ballot Weight Trainer Career Hcp Racing

1 SO YOU THINK 1 56.0 Bart Cummings 10-7-2-0 122

2 DESCARADO 3 54.0 Gai Waterhouse 14-4-4-1 115

3 SHOCKING (BLKS) 4 57.0 Mark Kavanagh 22-6-6-2 118

4 SHOOT OUT 5 55.0 John Wallace 17-7-2-3 116

5 METAL BENDER (BLKS) 6 56.0 Chris Waller 18-8-3-1 116

6 CAMPANOLOGIST 7 56.0 Saeed Bin Suroor 25-9-4-4 114

7 ZIPPING 8 55.5 Robert Hickmott 44-15-3-7 119

8 MONACO CONSUL 9 54.0 Michael Moroney 15-3-1-3 110

9 PROFOUND BEAUTY 10 54.0 Dermot K Weld 20-9-4-3 N/A

10 MR MEDICI 11 55.0 Peter Ho 34-5-12-7 112

11 FAINT PERFUME 12 52.0 Bart Cummings 15-5-1-1 108

12 ILLUSTRIOUS BLUE 13 55.0 William J Knight 54-10-10-7 112

13 TOKAI TRICK 14 54.5 Kenji Nonaka 44-8-6-3 111

14 DARIANA (BLKS) 15 51.5 Bart Cummings 13-3-2-1 108

15 AMERICAIN 16 54.5 Alain de Royer Dupre 19-7-3-2 112

16 ONCE WERE WILD 18 51.5 Gai Waterhouse 12-6-1-0 108

17 ZAVITE 19 54.0 Anthony Cummings 57-10-6-3 110

18 HARRIS TWEED 20 54.0 Murray & Bjorn Baker 25-4-5-5 112

19 MASTER O

[Centrofold 147]

At the end of 2040m in the Cox Plate, he did not look like a horse that would go two miles. I think he is a false favourite.

[chelseacol 2,488]

At the end of 2040m in the Cox Plate, he did not look like a horse that would go two miles. I think he is a false favourite.

Yep I agree that there is a question mark, although it does seem a bit weird second guessing Bart !

Really makes it an even more fascinating race this year - hope he gets to the race so we can find out !

[Centrofold 147]

Bart has more than one string to his Melbourne Cup bow.

[Properispomenon 1]

Today Racing Victoria took the 2010 Melbourne Cup third declarations, with the connections of 47 horses paying the $3,520 fee for the $6 million feature due to run at Flemington on Tuesday November 2.

The number of third acceptors is up from 42 in 2009.

Over 30 stayers have dropped out of contention for the 150th Emirates Melbourne Cup at third acceptance stage, with notable defectors that were not paid up for today including Irish St Leger winner Sans Frontieres, Zabeel gelding Zabrasive, the Lee Freedman-trained Doctor Fremantle and Danny O

[julie m 1]

Bart has more than one string to his Melbourne Cup bow.

Glad to see your thoughts jane. faint perfume was 2nd favourite backed late in the caulfield, she got badly knocked up courtesy of mr medici and did not recover. all of a sudden out to 41 and $9.50 a place on futures betting! false odds i hope. even dariana was an early favourite-as bart said she just didnt handle the track.

[The Apprentice 1]

Red Ruler doing in there? No show. Dariana won't run/win at 3200m. Name a Redoubtes that has? Just like the Grandsire, they struggle past 2800m. I suspect Dariana will come out if it means Precedence gets a run. That's Bart's main chance.

[Pottsie 58]

Thanx for your responses about cup starters.

Guess 35th on ballot won't get in unless starts and wins this weekend. Horse probably passed its best anyway.

Another subject: Anyone know the next start for N Zer Kidnapped over in Aussie, thought was a massive run over there last start.

[PushTheButton 0]

Red Ruler doing in there? No show. Dariana won't run/win at 3200m. Name a Redoubtes that has? Just like the Grandsire, they struggle past 2800m. I suspect Dariana will come out if it means Precedence gets a run. That's Bart's main chance.

Yea if Precedence doesn't run in the Lexus, then I'd say that was a pretty good signal that Dariana and/or Faint Perfume won't start in the Cup.

I don't really think Faint Perfume is a MC horse myself, and I'd say they would sacrifice both of them to get Precedence a start. If they only need to pull one of them I wonder which it'll be?

[chelseacol 2,488]

Thanx for your responses about cup starters.

Guess 35th on ballot won't get in unless starts and wins this weekend. Horse probably passed its best anyway.

Another subject: Anyone know the next start for N Zer Kidnapped over in Aussie, thought was a massive run over there last start.

and from memory won the first race on Derby Day last year?????

[jd 0]

that was a huge run from cape cover last week. is he running this weekend?

[Properispomenon 1]

The full fields for Derby Day, just drawn, are here:

http://www.racingvictoria.net.au/racing/meeting.aspx?meet_code=825328

[The Apprentice 1]

last Saturday that he thought 4th would be a good result for Capecover. He ran 3rd. His main Aussie mission is the Queen Elizabeth at Flemington. Then he goes to Riccarton for the 3200m race.

[julie m 1]

Thanx for your responses about cup starters.

Guess 35th on ballot won't get in unless starts and wins this weekend. Horse probably passed its best anyway.

Another subject: Anyone know the next start for N Zer Kidnapped over in Aussie, thought was a massive run over there last start.

kidnapped is racing in the mackinon m3 r5 at 4.05 pm.

[chelseacol 2,488]

last Saturday that he thought 4th would be a good result for Capecover. He ran 3rd. His main Aussie mission is the Queen Elizabeth at Flemington. Then he goes to Riccarton for the 3200m race.

That might make the $10 at Riccarton look ok if he is definitely coming ...??