Kevin Payne Replaced

[teletubby 1]

kevin payne is okay, makes a few stuff ups now and again but is enjoyable to listen to..

young mr woods is okay as welll but in all fairness is still wet behind the ears and makes alot of mistakes that will change with age and experience... serve your apprenticeship thomas woods and come back in 3-4 years....

[G Unit 1]

You haven't interviewed all of the aforementioned people involved. That is 100% fact. Care to deny it? If you can't or refuse to, will you waddle off now? You may think you are talking with the right people but your allegations are purely second-hand hearsay. This is not the currency credible journalists deal in.

To indulge you, I have talked to Alby personally, like I do most weeks, but being the gentleman he is it is hard to get him on record. It is his perogative how he wants to 'go out', and I won't question that.

Duane Ranger has interviewed Kevin Payne and I have talked to him about that conversation.

We have Payne reinforcing, on public record, what I said about Walding and his god complex.

Payne is clearly agrieved and his legal advice says he has a case for a dispute.

As is noted, the TAB refuse to comment on anything, like always, so Walding will not be saying anything to anyone, especially if Broomhall is not.

I never claimed to have interviewed them, I claimed what I said was right.

Yes I have been looking in to the story, as it clearly polarises opinion on many levels.

You are yet to disprove anything I said. And you won't, because you know it will reveal your vested interest in this debate.

Unlike you, I don't deal in agendas.

This is clearly a contentious issue - six pages in two days suggests this is right. I guess in the long run, when someone (maybe me, maybe Lichter, maybe Ranger) runs the full story, we will see who was right and who was wrong.

Remember. If it looks like a dog, barks like a dog, and smells like a dog, it is probably a dog.

Especially when the NZ Racing Board is concerned.

[Jamie Hand 0]

To indulge you, I have talked to Alby personally, like I do most weeks, but being the gentleman he is it is hard to get him on record. It is his perogative how he wants to 'go out', and I won't question that.

Duane Ranger has interviewed Kevin Payne and I have talked to him about that conversation.

We have Payne reinforcing, on public record, what I said about Walding and his god complex.

Payne is clearly agrieved and his legal advice says he has a case for a dispute.

As is noted, the TAB refuse to comment on anything, like always, so Walding will not be saying anything to anyone, especially if Broomhall is not.

I never claimed to have interviewed them, I claimed what I said was right.

Yes I have been looking in to the story, as it clearly polarises opinion on many levels.

You are yet to disprove anything I said. And you won't, because you know it will reveal your vested interest in this debate.

What has he (I assume it is a he or is it short for glennys) contributed to racing? what is his/her role? why is he/she suddenly weilding axes? sounds personal to me. He/she must have done a lot for racing??

Unlike you, I don't deal in agendas.

This is clearly a contentious issue - six pages in two days suggests this is right. I guess in the long run, when someone (maybe me, maybe Lichter, maybe Ranger) runs the full story, we will see who was right and who was wrong.

Remember. If it looks like a dog, barks like a dog, and smells like a dog, it is probably a dog.

Especially when the NZ Racing Board is concerned.

Who is he? ( I assume it is a he not short for Glennys) what has He/She contributed to racing? why is He/She weilding the axe all of a sudden? He/She must have done a lot for the industry??

[majbarnett 0]

as much as i despise k paynes non-sense chatter a jibberish pre-race,, he is knowledgeable enough and commentates to a reasonable high standard ..

while young tom woods has not realy shown any improvemnet since his first tote start ,

tom woods would have to improve rapidly to mantain and hold any postion of length ..

maybe k payne trying to give to much info went against him ..

so i guess the wil al be going wes kevie.. but that would only be kevies mate..

in what appears to be an ever increasing australian dominance both on and off track..

makes you wonder how micks:rolleyes get his position . maybe that is not hair product .:tcheek::tcheek:..:tongue: :tongue::eek::eek:

cheers

[halfmanhalfbiscuit 0]

To indulge you, I have talked to Alby personally, like I do most weeks, but being the gentleman he is it is hard to get him on record. It is his perogative how he wants to 'go out', and I won't question that.

Duane Ranger has interviewed Kevin Payne and I have talked to him about that conversation.

We have Payne reinforcing, on public record, what I said about Walding and his god complex.

Payne is clearly agrieved and his legal advice says he has a case for a dispute.

As is noted, the TAB refuse to comment on anything, like always, so Walding will not be saying anything to anyone, especially if Broomhall is not.

I never claimed to have interviewed them, I claimed what I said was right.

Yes I have been looking in to the story, as it clearly polarises opinion on many levels.

You are yet to disprove anything I said. And you won't, because you know it will reveal your vested interest in this debate.

Unlike you, I don't deal in agendas.

This is clearly a contentious issue - six pages in two days suggests this is right. I guess in the long run, when someone (maybe me, maybe Lichter, maybe Ranger) runs the full story, we will see who was right and who was wrong.

Remember. If it looks like a dog, barks like a dog, and smells like a dog, it is probably a dog.

Especially when the NZ Racing Board is concerned.

Ho ho ho

You and M.Johns have a lot in common.

[Mardy 475]

Who is he? ( I assume it is a he not short for Glennys) what has He/She contributed to racing? why is He/She weilding the axe all of a sudden? He/She must have done a lot for the industry??

I think Glenn Broomhall has something to do with Trackside??...director or something like that.

[Te Toka 2]

I think Glenn Broomhall has something to do with Trackside??...director or something like that.

NZ Racing Board head of broadcasting. He has the unenviable job of sending people on their way due to the decreased money supply. Justin and Jason Teaz come to mind from last year along with around 30 others.

The callers were tasked with adding more to their speil due to the cutting of trackside interviews - hence the nonsence Payne was required to put into his commentary.

[evander 0]

De ba de ba de ba de ba dee . . . . . . . . .

Thats all folks !!!

[wackj 0]

is kev calling the dog meeting there next thurs? i hope so.

[Mardy 475]

I think i read that when Kev called at the Tuesday Forbury meeting a week or so back,that was his last meeting.

[greyhoundfever 0]

Tom Woods will get better but he's not up to scratch at the moment, listening to him on the radio is a nightmare and I won't have a bet withn him commentating if I can't see it, on the dogs or the trots. Don't Get me wrong I think he will measure up eventually but to not hear Kevin commentating down south nbjust seems wrong, Tom will crash and burn with all the responsibility of the coast racing and the southern racing to commentate, would of been tough for a commentator with years more experience let alone a school-boy.

[harnessgirl 0]

there is nothing wrong with tom wood!!! he is only young and is still learning so will everyone just lay off him!!!! i know him personally and i think he does very well!! and GOOD ON HIM for taking on the job down south it will be a new learning kerb for him!!!

tom will NOT crash and burn! cant you be happy for the boy!!!

[Ligerzero 34]

So, who is doing races @ Oamaru on Friday?

[harnessgirl 0]

tom is doing them

[harnessgirl 0]

actually sorry i was misinformed, kevin payne is doing them

[halfmanhalfbiscuit 0]

actually sorry i was misinformed, kevin payne is doing them

It isn't the only thing you are misinformed about.

[DIZZY 11]

It isn't the only thing you are misinformed about.

Hahahaha

[harnessgirl 0]

It isn't the only thing you are misinformed about.

oh god grow up the lot of you!!!!

try and act mature for once!!!

[smoken up 0]

oh god grow up the lot of you!!!!

try and act mature for once!!!

Act Mature!!!???

Why don't you grow up and have some respect for Kevin Payne!!!

Racing in the Otago region WILL NOT be the same without him....

[harnessgirl 0]

Act Mature!!!???

Why don't you grow up and have some respect for Kevin Payne!!!

Racing in the Otago region WILL NOT be the same without him....

who said i didnt have respect for kevin payne!!!!! he was one of my fav commentators when i lived down there so stop having a go at me hahahahaha

[Bradez 5]

Act Mature!!!???

Why don't you grow up and have some respect for Kevin Payne!!!

Racing in the Otago region WILL NOT be the same without him....

the trots in the north wont be the same without Alby either.

moving forward, its for the best

[smoken up 0]

the trots in the north wont be the same without Alby either.

moving forward, its for the best

Difference is, Albie was at the end of. I think he's in his 60's.

Kevin is 46!!! He's nowhere near the end of his career.

[smoken up 0]

Albie was at the end of 'his career'.

That was meant to say....

[Alf Riston 1,578]

I have to agree.

The Harness link article below exposes some shoddy practices by the RIB when ironically on 21st June everyone sat around the table with Racing Minister John Carter and agreed Integrity and Communication were the way forward for Racing.

Were the some of the Racing Industry staff present having a wee doze off during this meeting or do they consider themselves to be so high up on the food chain they are above all this Integrity and Communication nonsense?

Here is some good communication and Integrity from the RIB.

http://www.harnesslink.com/www/Article.cgi?ID=82073

Payne was told the news by the New Zealand Racing Board's head of broadcasting, Glen Broomhall two Mondays ago (July 5). He is yet to receive anything in writing.

Payne has given just under two decades to the three racing codes in the Deep South. He shifted from Auckland to Dunedin where he worked for Radio Pacific. He was also a presenter for initially Action TV before it evolved into Trackside TV. He also did radio work.

"When I made the move south in 1990 it wasn't just a career change, it was a lifestyle change. I left family behind and had to make a whole new start. Now 20 years later they said my axing was simply a financial decision. It stinks and what I did all those years ago right up until now counts for nothing," he said.

"They told me it was purely a financial decision and obviously my experience counts for nothing. I remember once at a casino function one night Luke Walding of the RIB told Dave McDonald, Ian Chambers and myself that he could fire and replace us at the drop of a hat. Well now that Ian and I have gone, you have to wonder if poor old Davey Mac will be next," Payne said.

Payne said his contract ran from August 1 to July 31 each year. Sometimes he said he had started the new season and a contract had still to be put in front of him in September.

"They have shown no loyalty whatsoever and it all comes down to economics for them, which is sad. They would rather go for young blood over experience. It's as simple as that."

Improvement of integrity services needed

Racing Minister John Carter

http://www.harnesslink.com/www/Article.cgi?ID=81597

[GreenT 0]

I understand that Kevin Payne feels a bit 'miffed' by the whole deal, but being a Race commentator doesn't make you immune from tough economic times.

Thousands the world over have picked up their pegs and relocated elsewhere to pursue a career. I don't think Kevin could realistically expect that he had a job for life, just because he moved south.

The 20 odd years he got is probably not a bad run actually.

Cheers

Alf

The recession or tough economic times has got nothing to do with this issue Alf.

If it did I would expect the positions of the 50 odd staff who are earning over $100k in the RIB,TAB,HRNZ etc to be put under the microscope.

The only question here is was Kevin Payne doing the job well and were the

Racing public ( particularly those in his area) happy with him?

Is his replacement a better commentator and will he add more value to racing in the South than Kevin did?

Were these questions asked by Luke Walding,Broomhall and co before they made the decision to replace him and did they even bother to do any research amongst their customers ( the racing public ) to justify it?

Are Walding ,Broomhall and co adding any value to racing or are they in effect reducing value to racing ?

Why are they still there if they are reducing value?

Read all the posts on Race Cafe and on other sites and judge for yourself.