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And that's a good point. It's not always how good the horse is, but who they're competing against. But over the length of their respective careers plenty had the chance to knock them both off, but either couldn't or gave up trying. Black Caviar would have won by a greater margin at Ascot had the jockey's brain not faltered short of the line - was lucky to actually win at all - and how many times did they move other horses in the barrier for BC? I recall once, although it should have been none at all. I'd pick Winx narrowly, as 33 wins in a row compared to 25, 25 Group 1 wins versus 15, the greater stake earnings and the longevity with four consecutive Cox Plates. That said Black Caviar was unbeaten AND travelled overseas, so there's not much between them. It was certainly a great era for Australian racing with two outstanding mares. I still marvel at the last-to-first win that Winx scored on the first of her consecutive sequence of 33 race victories.

I hope you got my BIG FAT ZERO collect without any drama?

At least she's is actually from Queensland. I didn't see it so don't know first-hand who was wearing what.

Bloody hereditary issues. Soft mentality huh? No wonder all of my kids have problems

OSCAR was disappointing; his main opposition broke, he got the perfect run, but lacked his usual finish. PINSEEKER and BET N WIN looked pretty good though. Some great performances by Aussie pacers and trotters over the 3 meetings however, especially LEAP TO FAME and ARCEE PHOENIX, the two winners from the big night at Cambridge. Also FRANCO TYSON and LONDON TO A BRICK (16 lengths paying $1.00 and $1.00), FIRE AND PASSION and EYE KEEP SMILING, while THE NARCISSIST was arguably the biggest disappointment on the night.

$0.00x$10.00 + $0.00x$10.00 = $0.00

Still not as bad as the commentary on the Kentucky Derby when MINE THAT BIRD won!!!

That YouTube video ran 100% perfect all the way through Scooby, with neither that or the page itself doing anything unexpected. Hopefully it's all good for everybody else. Thank you

Sorry Scooby. I never get up before noon, and I'm definitely not ungrateful. I've just reread a couple of threads and an automatic refresh kicked me out both times, and did not return me to the same place I was just previous. I then tried to watch the YouTube video of The Ombudsmen but was ejected half way through and upon scrolling back to the video, it was back to the start. I'm sorry for messing up this thread, and the reason I didn't report it before is because I thought I might have been the only one with issues, as nobody else had said anything. But once 3 or 4 had in this thread, I jumped in too.

Flemington Race 8; #8 St Lawrence

I've been having those same "refresh" issues since the update too. If watching a YouTube video it clicks off and goes back to the beginning. If half way through typing a post it disappears during the "refresh" and l have to start again. I thought I'd leave it and see if anyone else reported it too. I'm assuming it's a setting somewhere that some of us set differently to others? I have done a restart already. Will do a cache clearance too and see if that helps.

I suspect that's what they'd open him up at. How can he not win it?

How can two horses breed if they're all "gender neutral"? Or know who to mate with if they're possibly "non binary"?? Or will it be all about finding the right time with another "gender fluid" nag??? Somebody needs to name a horse "Done With DEI". No more Fillies Series. No more Oaks. No more fillies and mares races. And if l ever get to the track again and somebody refers to me in such a way, it'll be the end of my interest in betting other than via the internet. Maybe that's the plan

Relatively recently they said they had about five groups interested (according to McKinnon via Colliers) in the Pukekohe property, the land that for many years they've been saying would be completely surrounded by houses yet still isn't, so one can only assume all five have fallen over like the Chinese deal and the Xmas 2024 deal? Nobody would have been offering enough to pay off the debt, which will still be climbing vast amounts with every new delay. Originally - once the Chinese deal collapsed leaving the ATC with only $10 million of the $100 million they were banking on (excuse the pun)- they revealed that they expected to have a deal sorted before Xmas 2024. Then it all went quiet again, from this administration that stood on a platform of total transparency. Yeah, right. Tui ad. Even though I've seen nothing on the bank taking over either, surely it is all but inevitable now?

A Harness Pick 6 was compulsory for me every time one ran, it was one way of getting a reasonable return with a smallish bet out of decreasing field sizes. Now the fields are even smaller, and a Quaddie is the best they can offer in its place. Disheartening. Now some meetings l still have a go, only if there are some decent feature races to watch, but other nights l don't even bother at all.

Fantastic work team. Keep it up until we see meaningful change.

Do you believe EVERY change, whether it be by government or private organisation, be put to a national referendum?

Rubbish!!!

I watched all three live last night. All three SUPER IMPRESSIVE. OSCAR B getting away from the mobile was a good start, as he hasn't been doing that with any regularity since he broke on Auckland Cup on December 31st, 2024. Impressed how the new driver jut eased him away which was easy being on the second line. I think the drive on RUBIRA was superb too, parking the great FATE AWAITS was the winning of the race. And CAPTAINS MISTRESS was simply stunning. Looking ahead to the Interdoms, DON HUGO was impressive last night too, but there were no other potential Interdom contenders in that field, so he needed to be.

I'll be well beyond midfield as I'll be entering this comp without a run for some months - and l haven't had a trial since the freshen up - but I'll give you a wave if l every get as high as the midfield I'll be at 100-1 for the win - andf l might have a tenner on that - but I'd be a better lay-bet albeit at odds-on.

Wouldn't the fact that the ATC purchased the land in 1912 defeat your theory? I also think that there's more chance of potential new customers coming from the inhabitants of the scorned apartments that are now blocking the view from One Tree Hill than there ever was from those watching from up the top of One Tree Hill. Especially as the trots are now 99% at night and access to One Tree Hill is blocked at night. But even if it wasn't, it's still a no brainer.

You can even see the old Epsom Showgrounds Stockcar track to the far left of the picture, the smaller oval about half way up. That was only operational from 1955 to 1959, so gives some idea of the era this picture was taken.

Do people having had a vasectomy still qualify as being Big Kahunas, even though they've basically been gelded?

Never mind you getting a vet check. Kloppite needs a weight check on the scales AND a spell in the swab box