Forrest 78 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 Standing at Calumet farm in the USA for 20000 dollar fee. I have always liked this horse on looks and pedigree and what an outstanding racehorse he was, but I always imagined if he stood in NZ or AUST that his fee would be more around the 10000 to 12000 mark in order to convince people to breed stayers. I would have thought at least initially he would find it hard commercially untll he got a few to the track, but it could just be me wanting him to be within my range of fee. Of course he wouldnt be the first or last to have a vastly different fee set NH versus SH but it usually goes up when you go to Australasia. Any thoughts? Mastercraftsman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby 160 Report post Posted December 19, 2012 I guess it is not that expensive for him in US but for us a bit rich. I saw him close up in Melbourne an absolute stunner and very relaxed - will he shuttle?? Would love to have a mare to go to him Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Baz 10 Report post Posted December 23, 2012 Agree that he is a stunning looking animal. I could (almost!) be persuaded to want to start breeding again if he was at stud here! Although I would need to convince my bank manager that breeding horses is an investment, when clearly it is not, but it is a bit of fun if you don't mind losing thousands!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby 160 Report post Posted January 9, 2013 Hollywood Baz - I see he is standing at Swettenham Stud in Victoria for 2013 at a fee of $12,500 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
optical 41 Report post Posted January 10, 2013 $12,500 is a fair price for a horse that is well known in Australia. You put that on par with Road to Rock, Shocking and a few other Australian stayers it is probably a fair price and competitive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka 1,179 Report post Posted January 11, 2013 Optical... I have no pretensions towards claiming any expertise in the thoroughbred breeding realm but, having established my lack of credentials in this area, I feel compelled to say that the pricing of Americain in his first season at stud in the Southern Hemisphere seems very, very reasonable to me. I further feel compelled to label the service fee as generous. Never, not even in my wildest dreams, did I ever envisage the possibility that I would be passing comments of this nature on any thoroughbred service fee...not in this lifetime or any other. Cheers. Ashoka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Baz 10 Report post Posted January 12, 2013 Agree that this seems a very good price. Unless you have a very good mare, best to wait for three years I think, when none have started winning and you can buy one for half the service fee!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest 78 Report post Posted January 12, 2013 As I stated I think that is a fairly good fee for attracting breeders to breed stayers, although in our case we wont be leaving NZ To those who plan to use him, I dont think you will need too much luck , but plenty of patience, absolutely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berri 2,131 Report post Posted January 12, 2013 One of the best looking horses God put onto the Earth. Unbelievable that a NZ stud didn't secure this bloke. Adam has pulled a fine deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest 78 Report post Posted January 16, 2013 Apparently they are offering lifetime breeding rights to Americain for $30,000 aussie dollars for limited shares on a first come first serve basis. Sounds pretty good to me, except it is not in NZ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...