Guest Report post Posted December 8, 2016 Yes the Brodster on about fairness again! All I ask is fairness and common sense to prevail! Last race at Addington last night Ross Houghton has been fined $300 by the Stipes for excess use of the whip! He has used the whip more than 10 times but doesn't seem to be hitting the horse that hard, but if that is the rule at the moment fair enough? HOWEVER, in the same race Terry Chmiel on Titanium clearly hits his horse harder with the whip MANY TIMES MORE THAN 10 and yet the STIPES obviously didn't bother counting his hits as no mention or fine here. Does this rule apply to all drivers or just to the ones that the Stipes want to watch and hammer???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,010 Report post Posted December 8, 2016 Brodie there is obviously an A and B list in both Codes. Terry is an A Lister and poor Ross is a B Lister. Simple but totally UNFAIR! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted December 8, 2016 36 minutes ago, gubellini said: Brodie there is obviously an A and B list in both Codes. Terry is an A Lister and poor Ross is a B Lister. Simple but totally UNFAIR! You are correct Gubellini. Why are there so many inconsistencies with the Stipes and JCA. It isn't that hard to make informed and fair decisions and treat everyone equally. Ross got fined fair enough but his horse needs the persuader and would have won with another couple of hits, so,this new rule cost him and the punters of this horse a win. Terry Chmiel also broke the rule no doubt about it, but absolutely no mention whatsoever from The Stipes which is totally unacceptable if they want to call it THE RACING INTEGRITY UNIT!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted December 8, 2016 42 minutes ago, gubellini said: Brodie there is obviously an A and B list in both Codes. Terry is an A Lister and poor Ross is a B Lister. Simple but totally UNFAIR! Can you post this list so we can see for ourselves ? Spikecity 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,010 Report post Posted December 9, 2016 Kotare Hunter just look at recent penalties for similar offences in both Codes and make up your own list! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,010 Report post Posted December 9, 2016 Kotare Hunter you can add to the following lists! A Grade Terry Chmiel Matt Williamson Natalie Rasmussen Ken Barron Tony Barron B Grade Ross Houghton Jonny Cox Alistair Lowe Craig Edmonds Coaster Howe Kotare Hunter join the dots! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted December 9, 2016 good work gubbles I might keep and eye on this, see if they make any mistakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,559 Report post Posted December 9, 2016 Oh here we go again, this will be a long running thread, don't forget the juniors to fit on the list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,010 Report post Posted December 9, 2016 Yes Shad on December 1 Junior Driver Jack MacKinnon copped a 13 day suspension for excessive use of the whip. Admittedly it wasn't his first charge but Senior Drivers usually only get a modest fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,559 Report post Posted December 9, 2016 1 hour ago, gubellini said: Yes Shad on December 1 Junior Driver Jack MacKinnon copped a 13 day suspension for excessive use of the whip. Admittedly it wasn't his first charge but Senior Drivers usually only get a modest fine. Oh thanks, i missed that ,what more can we say, keep that list going and will be a sight to see in another 6 months,Well done on that idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted December 9, 2016 2 hours ago, Shad said: Oh thanks, i missed that ,what more can we say, keep that list going and will be a sight to see in another 6 months,Well done on that idea. Shad, I think you are missing the point. The point being is that the easy prey are being hammered whereas some of the seniors or others are receiving preferential treatment and it isn't hard to see this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,559 Report post Posted December 9, 2016 9 hours ago, Brodie said: Shad, I think you are missing the point. The point being is that the easy prey are being hammered whereas some of the seniors or others are receiving preferential treatment and it isn't hard to see this. If you look back on some of my posts, you will see i have been saying that for sum time, may have even brought it up, remember the fitzergald discussion, and even long before that, been an on going issue, also not many seniors that get fined, mostly a caution.Just a revenue gathering exercise as the expense of the battlers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,559 Report post Posted December 11, 2016 I see a couple more got fined at the trots yesterday, for over use of the whip, 300$ fine, one of them, all these fines sum of the battlers may be begging the for the no whip change to come in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...