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Hallowed Crown is not going to run in the Caulfield Guineas. Going for the Roman Consul Stakes 1200m ob Oct 4th and then the Coolmore Stud Stakes 1600m four weeks later.

Due to the unsafe nature of the Counties track their meeting which was to have been held on Saturday has been transferred to Te Aroha.

Fasthorse, why don't you do yourself a favour. Instead of coming on here as a lone voice and continually facing death by a thousand cuts, why don't you (as I have suggest previously) sit down with John Wheeler and be enlightened. He is not hard to find.

Firstly, as has been pointed out to you previously, 72 is not a rumour, it is fact. The annual reports in July 2003 show 33 as $100k+ and July 2013 the number is 72. I note that the top level range of salary for the Auckland Council is $859,999. Weren't NZRB paying $900K to Andrew Brown. You will also note that many are calling for the Auckland Council to reduce staff and salary costs just as many in the racing industry are calling for the same thing with regard to the NZRB. Another red herring you have thrown out Fasthorse.

Can you clarify exactly what meeting you are referring to last week. My recollection of costs and staff numbers being questioned in recent weeks is with regard to the NZRB.

You are off the mark Doric. R1 Our Alchemist was in front but bungled the second last and nearly dislodging the rider. R2 Crickey Cron having his first hurdle start jumped hesitantly near the back, ran on late as jumping improved a bit as the race went on. Was never going to beat Mr Kanton, who looked a good thing, anyway. R3 Billy Elliot, steeplechaser coming back to a hurdle event and was given every show.

Don't think CW would have been impressed. Change of rider coming up one would think.

Run of the race was interestingly bred Zebulon for mine. Huge run from last to 3rd.

Boban Poor ride last start. Good draw today, up to 1600m on a big track. Will be very tough to beat.

Up to 2000m on a nice big track at Flemington. Double figure odds. Bootmakers idoits alright. Nice! And don't you forget about our Silent Achiever in the Cup either!!

Gwynethanne (13) Akavoroun (8) Sarajevo (11)

Paid into account about 9.45pm. Cheers.

RK, your logic is flawed as spelt out by many posters. Now let's look at the competition. Points for placings and points for dividends. In the scenario of a dead heat for first your logic is to give both 175 points which is an outright win for each runner even though the win is shared rather than first and second points added together and divided by two for each runner. As they crossed the line if one horse was showing $10 to win and the other $16 on the tote then according to your logic that is the dividend you would use in calculating the points to be consistent with the scenario above, even though the declared dividend by the TAB would be $5 and $8 respectively. I would be certain that no one would be accepting of that either just as they are not accepting of your other proposal.

I thought my wife had put this through yesterday afternoon before she headed to Auckland. The slip I left is by the computer. She will be home around 6pm so I'll confirm. Cheers.

RK It was OFFICIALLY changed from Petre to Wanganui 20 January 1854. The Wanganui Jockey Club was formed in 1874. I hope that you saw Wanganui Jockey Club (again the official name of the club) on the finish line post on Saturday. Whanganui is a region not the name of the Town now a city. There are copies of the Wanganui from January 1874 in Papers Past and they are showing WANGANUI CHRONICLE.

27th February 1841 was the arrival of the first settlers on a schooner called Elizabeth. A town was established near the river mouth first called Petre after Lord Petre and offically changed to Wanganui on 20 January 1854. Maori lived across the river in a place known as Putki. Racing actually started with the first two meetings being 21 & 22 December 1848 and records show that they continued each year through to 1857. Records do not exist between 1858 - 1864 possibly due to Maori unrest and the Taranaki Land Wars. The Wanganui Jockey Club was formed in 1874 with Freeman Jackson elected as secretary and treasurer, an office he held for 24 years. The Jackson Stakes was named after him. Wanganui was the first club in NZ to have a race for 1,000 sovereigns with this being run. As stated previously, it is the Wanganui Jockey Club and Wanganui racecourse. Therefore anyone using references to racing there should be using Wanganui not Whanganui.

You are incorrect RK The original name was always Wanganui.

The way I see it: There is a total of 235 points allocated to each race. 175 for 1st 100 for second and 60 for third . After allocating 175 points to the winner this leaves 160 points left. Therefore the deadheaters should be allocated 80 points each being 50/50 of the remaining points. Relatively simple I would have thought.

I would suggest that those with small TVs, if they want to see it properly, had better go out and buy a wide screen TV. Question: Does Butch wear too may hats that may restrict him from being open and frank or questioning of various issues?

Despite being pretty sick with a bad dose of the flu, NGH rode two winners at Wanganui yesterday, Weissmuller and Avisto in the fillies stakes race. The significance of those wins meaning that he has now passed the remarkable Bill Skelton in NZ winning rides. "WD" was the first jockey to achieve 2000 NZ winners and retired having ridden 2156 NZ winners. NGH now sits third on the all time list behind David Walsh and Lance O'Sullivan.

I wish you had selected the O'Leary's Fillies Stakes at Wanganui Scooby NGH has now overtaken Bill Skelton on the all time record number of NZ wins and now lies third behind David Walsh and Lance O'Sullivan. However, you pick what ever races you like. Same for everyone.

Well done Todamax on picking up about the Jockey Club name which prompted the thread. If you read my start to the thread it is clearly in relation to the Wanganui Jockey Club as per the first two sentences which beggared the question of the person writing in relation to racing. The official name of the Club is Wanganui Jockey Club, therefore in a racing sense, as the TAB do and NZTR the correct spelling is Wanganui and the person who does the form lines in deference to the club should use the same spelling. Interesting the comments on here though. I knew that the the referendums were both strongly in favour of Wanganui but wasn't sure of the margin. Thanks Tatura.

I looked up another ancient document.....my birth certificate... and it clearly shows Wanganui.

R3 Offangone (16) R8 Eletist (1) R7 Lucia Valentina (10)

The Wanganui Jockey Club has been in existance since 1848 and is the oldest surviving racing club in NZ. Why does the person who writes the comments for the TAB form guides insist on showing it as Whanganui? Twelve times in the Otaki comments. The NZ Post Code Finder shows Wanganui as does Wises and weather sites. The TAB itself shows Wanganui Races at Wanganui yet allows Whanganui in the comments line. Crazy.