Leggy

Wouln't starting the time before the gates open make the time greater/slower? What does seem peculiar is that the times were a second faster than the video times when both are manual and rely on the timer respondse to the gates opening.

Hmmm...hot tip rumpers? Or early April Fools day trickery?

m4r8#2

That's a good example punna of that aspect of the issue. There is another example which I can't name names for obvious reasons. But the lower the minimum stakes. The more it occurs because owners who don't have a top class horse, have only two ways to recover some expenses. Sell or punt. So you get the first starter with the ability to win or go close having a quiet,comes out a start or two later and wins by 3lengths at double figure odds. The stipes rarely ask a question and if they do the horse's inexperience in some form suffices. As some would say it's only a rort if you're not in on it.

Wouldn't that have come from the RB, but how the hell did the Herald subs miss it?

http://www.skysports.com/racing/race-report/0,28798,11068_420118,00.html Yep, well done Prop. You tempted me into a massive $2 each way which seems to have added some $80 odd to my account.:beer: :y:

So Don, what I think you are saying is that there is still a group of owners like yourself who would like to continue or even extend what is clearly an unsustainable funding model that is responsible to a considerable extent for the pickle the industry now finds itself in?

So did you get an indication Pun?

Well there appears to be a small problem with that Prop from what I hear. Apparently the retail terminals aren't working too well because someone forgot to attach the optical scanners before they installed them. Slick operation eh?

Well it all seems a bit frivolous and irrelevant to me, I'm afraid.

About bloody time. If there's any cheap cases of pinot that emerge, please let me know. Unless the DIA and RB already have them.

Well I'm not sure what comment you are referring to Sheriff.

oops spelling...empirical

I'd say if it's observable, it's empiracle and therefore science.

Sorry I know nothing about a,b,c,d,e Sheriff. I'm not sure what you mean by f. That he (g) pled (sic) guilty on charges of saying naughty words to officials still suggests to me that he should have his mouth washed out with soap at least. I agree, I'm not well informed on the matter, but I'm not quite clear who my tribe of myopic arachnids is?

If something works, that is science Puha.

He should at least have his mouth washed out with soap?

http://www.tabcorp.com.au/investor_reports_detail.aspx?view=126

Yeahh, well that personal note should go the same way as the stoned and halved avocado in your office, Prop

It's also a bit hard to figure out how any informed financial decisions could be made if it takes 2 months to come up with the data.

ta. Agree with yours now. Seemed to have gained some extra spaces beween digits in translation.

Rod, just out of curiosity, none of my column totals for galloping actually match the ones in the RB doc and I've manually checked a couple - not far different but did you find that?

Don, I agree with the above, in part, but punters are also investors and they are culling NZ racing as well. Would you not agree that we need BOTH a racing product that is attractive to owners AND a wagering product that is attractive to punters and that both must be sustainable? There is a limit to how many races can be run that fail to generate sufficient revenue to cover the cost of the event and in particular the stake money. This is not about being fair to clubs as you suggest (though a degree of that seems necessary to incentivise clubs as well), it is about a sound business framework that is optimal for achieving both the above objectives. How the stakes pie is cut is a key part of that though certainly not all of it. As I've said, it would be good to survey owners with 2 or 3 optional models to indeed establish what the customer wants. I'm not convinced that your view is what would be most attractive to the majority, although you may be right. However, the options presented must be sustainable. As far as I can makeout yours is not.

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