The Diceman Cometh

Farty, there are statistics.....and there are statistics. It's purely subjective how you want to interpret them.

Well thank you Rumsnake. All those years in personality recognition class have been worth it. I should mention that P4P has also been suckered. He is preaching wax. I say forget wax at all cost and I have personal experience that wax Is extremely detrimental to your health.

Ahh ooh.....I smell a concoction of Pommy and Oz brew being cooked up. Very clever Rumbo. As the number one Snake Oil Salesman for the company that provides the AW surfaces, I congratulate you and your not so sassy assistant Unzip Me Anytime for A GoodTime, you think you can slip in the back door to influence NZ punters thinking. Well I have bad news for you Rumsnake. There won't be any new artificial racetracks built in NZ anytime soon. None, nil, fark all, zero, zilch. Why you may well ask in frustration, after such a well planned, mostly accurate and sometimes informative, reasonably articulate but slightly sleezy none the less programmed intention by you and your Aussie sidekick? Well the answer is simple .......Simon. This miserable motley crew of brain dead uneducated all weather imitation of a wax head gummint headed by an all time leading fark wit with an whisky soaked skull, won't be there long enough to see it through.

Steady on chaps. There are many who read, and sometimes participate in both forums. Who elected you three as the all mighty brains trust - know it all of harness NZ. Can others not have an opinion? As you well know there are various levels of class. My level is obviously way above yours, and yours is yet to be determined, but your efforts to lift are noted. Remember, he who carries an ego carries superior knowledge.

And that's just a summary of the horses. I remember the other variety of fillies.........and your record there was reasonably impressive too. That old shack of KJM's was a popular serving barn.

You are displaying signs of detachment in those comments.

Name the racing people who call you "sick comments" daily. And I await your response to my other questions, especially the one regarding Ian and Garry.

Lee, one other question if I may. Do you think Ian or Garry would be happy with your representation of their business during this discussion?

Always sad to hear that someone has been on the receiving end of sick pedophiles Lee and you seem to have a personal attachment, based on your description above. If you have been, you have my heartfelt sympathy. It is interesting that you have chosen to bring the subject up on this website during this debate. However it doesn't distract from the question I asked. You claim that anyone not using your methods are "losers". I suspect I already know the answer to my question, but the idea was to let the other readers on New Zealand's Premier Racing website know as well. Surely you agree that this is a magnificent opportunity to further promote yourself, rather than discussing your personal pedophile situation.

The world is your oyster Crusty. Go for it.

Since you two keep bringing the subject up.....repeatedly, perhaps Lee might like to close it for once and for all. Post the list of all trainers, of all codes using the product. That would provide a guide to those successful stables using it, including the one that has had a fabulous run of success in recent seasons, to those that use it and have NOT achieved the same success, for whatever reason. That information can't be commercially sensitive, as Lee is allowed to self promote it on this website in a manner that espouses anyone not using it is a "loser". Seems a very logical solution to close the subject, don't you agree?

Rangi Can you please post any evidence where I have named or accused or made a false accusation regarding any stable of using performance enhancing drugs. Take your time, because bewilderment might be blinding your focus.

Hey Lee It's funny Friday......lighten up.......take a load off ya mind. There was a young plumber named Lee Who was plumbing his girl by the sea. She said, "Stop your plumbing, There's somebody coming" Said the plumber, still plumbing, "It's me."

You missed out a few.

I have to wait for a forensic report from the RIU to confirm, but the Fixed Odds market suggest it is you talking to Scooby.

Nicked being a very good choice of words Lee.

I was meaning more in that period between 2000 and 2008 and the Rolleston subdivisions and the crooked solicitor and all that carry on. Ringing some bells for you Lee?

Go on Lee......you know you want to tell us. You can't help yourself. Just how much was your percentage from the payouts?

Ewe are a funny fella.

I don’t know of many successful business people who would get too upset with social media criticism and go to the lengths he has to run people down who, for whatever reason, are anti it. If the products that sensational and successful, it would be water off a ducks back. But no point wasting further oxygen on it. Let’s agree to disagree.

Nothing to do with “joining a hate club”. Obviously feels insecure if he is offended by comments on a non-influential social media website.

Toxic is certainly a word that is increasingly dominant in my thoughts every time you post Lee, and not pertaining to the product.

Does anybody watch that channel anymore ? This is apt: "John Campbell is a dickhead. People inside Radio NZ hated his sucking of important resources, but the cunning plan of his “good friend” Carol Hirschfeld was to get a Labour government elected and increase funding. All that collapsed when they were busted and Hirschfeld was unceremoniously dumped for her duplicity and deviousness. The other party in that debacle was the inept and hugely stupid Clare Curran who singularly failed to obtain the increased funding to keep the deeply conceited John Campbell happy in his trough of taxpayer-funded swill."