2 and 3 year old sires.

[john legend]

It is interesting to watch the competition amongst sires this long season.The common feature of last 10 years in all categories  was dominance of Bettors Delight but inevitably things do change .... Looking at 2  and 3 year olds .The older established stallions have a fight with the new boys.

2year olds (individual winners ) Sweet Lou =10 ...........Art Major=8............Bettors Delight=6   (all established older sires.

2 year(individual winners ) Always B Miki  = 6 winners.....Down by the Seaside=6 winners..Capt Treacherous6 winners (and top % sire)                                                                                                                                                                    3 year olds Sweet Lou...38 winners,Art Major...36 winners.Bettors Delight 29 winners,,Capt Treacherous21 winners...Vincent..18.winners Downby the seaside,,16 winners.                                                                  Notable is still strength of Art Major and sweet lou and strong showing by Capt Treacherous From small crops (outstanding)                                                                                                                                                              Also to note the 3 s emerging stallions to watch are.... Always b Miki,Down by the Seaside and Vincent.                             Often the best progeny come from mares with Betters Delight as sire or Christian Cullen.esp in 2 year old ranks.    PS. money won changes rankings but young horses that can win shows potential for future value . as even maiden races are very competitive and well under 2 minute MR s

[john legend]

As expected Bettors Delight has to bow to other stallions for 2023 .BD has been supreme in all classes of pacing horses  for last 10 years and his influence on our breed is immense (now appearing as a magnificent "breed improver" as dam sire) the 2 year old pacers for  example...                                                        No 1... Art Major...2 ...Captain Treacherous .. 3..Always B Miki 4 Bettor Delight ....5    Sweet Lou'.....6 Down By the Seaside

Points of interest A. as dam sire of young horses the Bettors delight influence 2023 was absolutely dominant (and helps other sires)                                                                                                  B .Captain Treacherous  is outstanding as a winners to foals % in 2 and 3 year ages (low breeding numbers   as only limited AI available for southern hemisphere at a large $ figure if you lucky enough to be accepted )

                               C All 6 sires plus Vincent figure in 3 year old lists as well  All are quality sires

.                                               D. interesting to note whilst BD still top 4 year old sire, the number of individual winners goes to  the stallion in 2nd .place,A Rocknroll dance with 35 winners.  

,Hopefully breeding bonuses ,increasing stakes levels and more opportunities for all classes will encourage more foals this season... !

[Insider]

What about Trotting Sires as that is my interest after just having come back into the game after 50 years! Don’t laugh, galloping has been good to me. 

[john legend]

I tend to concentrate on pacers as trotters need a lot of work and a bit longer in many cases. However as an overview.... If you were to breed the strength of Sundon as a broodmare sire is dominant in all groups and daughters  mate well with most newish sires. Some sires to note are Father Patrick and What the Hill which appear as standouts with young horses.With older trotters   Majestic Son and Love you and Monarchy have all proved worthwhile.Pacing bred sires have best results coming from separate lines to produce Hybrid vigour but trotters have produced many champions from close breeding (not inbreeding) You can see results of current crops by looking at HRNZ horse reports Then check trotting sires and trotting broodmare sires 2yrs to all ages... Good Luck

[john legend]

This season the top 6 sires have kept their amazing records and even Bettors Delight has remained no. 1 helped a lot by having 2838 foals of racing age,Art Major is no.2 with1333 foals.The next is Downbytheseaside who only has 343 foals. SimilarlySweet lou 621, and Always b Miki 561 are doing a great job .As usual Capt treacherous with only 189 foals is a big standout in the top 6 . I do wonder if it is fair to rank sires by money won only  as a list showing average earnings per foal would be interesting and change rankings (ps watch for the future if Lazarus can get more foals as he is doing very well with only 18 foals over 2 years of age )

[2Piper]

On 5/27/2024 at 9:08 PM, john legend said:

I tend to concentrate on pacers as trotters need a lot of work and a bit longer in many cases. However as an overview.... If you were to breed the strength of Sundon as a broodmare sire is dominant in all groups and daughters  mate well with most newish sires. Some sires to note are Father Patrick and What the Hill which appear as standouts with young horses.With older trotters   Majestic Son and Love you and Monarchy have all proved worthwhile.Pacing bred sires have best results coming from separate lines to produce Hybrid vigour but trotters have produced many champions from close breeding (not inbreeding) You can see results of current crops by looking at HRNZ horse reports Then check trotting sires and trotting broodmare sires 2yrs to all ages... Good Luck

Magic Indy Eyre x Lucky Pat (Sundon)

The stallion is from the same family as The Locomotive (La Coocaracha,  Dance Craze, Mataderos etc) He has Lordship and Plat Du Jour in his pedigree which both produced trotters. Also has Nevele Pride going further back.