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If you have to have it during a race, I'd prefer that option, or as SLB says, just for post race coverage. I much prefer the side view during the running so I can see how horses are travelling. I find the drone view useless for that and very annoying.

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Totally agree SLB and it's not just high volume punters either. For a small punter like myself, whether I can get $2.30 or $2.40 makes the difference between whether or not I have a bet. When you are working on 10-12% POT, that's gone at the lower price. As a result, because of the noncompetitive Entain pricing, 80-90% of my current betting will no longer be feasible.

Exactly. The POCC is 10% of gross betting revenue from NZ residents. That charge is removed by the new legislation. If you take the TAB estimate that offshore racing and sports GBR is $180m, that means that the new legislation has to recover $18m p.a. before we get ahead.

$200 +GST I think including the NZTR paid component.

Just to be fair, it's not all of them, some have adapted and do it correctly. Eg. in the second today, one of our most experienced riders. Why should they be disadvantaged by those who are cheating and getting away with it?

Didn't take long to spot one today.

There is one. The PoC tax. They lose that now with this legislation.

No it was 3400 from memory though I see in the programme book it's advertised for this year as 3100. It's all a bit weird.

I think Edor means that if you have a fixed odds bet with bet365 you get the higher of the fixed odds or the starting price. Don't think NZTAB offer that.

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I doubt it. I'd say you'll need an Australian bank account and address and they possibly will block betting from a VPN which means you'll also have to bet from a device on an Australian network.

Has been 5500 for 50 years. Since 1975. No clue why they would shorten it seemingly out of the blue?

Btw, has anyone worked out why it is 4900m when it was in the programme book and jumps programme as the usual 5500?

Internationally-renowned commentator Matt Hill will call Saturday's Grant Plumbing Wellington Steeplechase (4900m) out of Trentham. Photo: Racing Photos The voice of the Melbourne Cup is coming to Trentham Joshua Smith, LOVERACING.NZ News Desk 25 June 2025 Trentham racegoers are in for a treat this Saturday, with Matt Hill, the voice of the Melbourne Cup, on course to call the Grant Plumbing Wellington Steeplechase (4900m). Hill’s voice is one of the most recognisable in Australian sport, with the Melbournian not only calling horse racing, but also AFL, the Olympics, and since 2012 he has been a commentator and presenter for the Australian Open Tennis. He enjoys the diversity of calling multiple sports and is thrilled to have followed in the footsteps of a couple of his idols. “I have always been a curious soul, and I adore sport, but also our race callers over here (Australia),” Hill said. “I idolised Bruce McAvaney, the sports commentator over here and he was the voice of the Olympics. Bruce was a race caller that became our chief AFL caller, and Ray Warren was a great race caller in the eighties who became the chief rugby league caller. “I was always curious to have a go at other things, and particularly being a Melbourne boy, to have a go at AFL football. I have been able to balance both now by doing football and racing. I am lucky that I have been able to straddle both, which has been really good.” His talent has taken him all around the world covering a myriad of sports, but it is international racing that intrigues Hill the most, and he has now called races in 16 countries and counting. “I have called races in 16 countries, not by design but by being a guest or travelling, I am fascinated by international racing,” Hill said. “When I was young, I was particularly interested in jumps racing and I ended up calling seven Grand Nationals for the BBC and the Velká Pardubická (jumps race) in the Czech Republic.” Having experienced race calling and various other sports around the world, Hill continues to be amazed by the diversity of racing in each country. “A basketball match is a basketball match wherever you watch it, most sports are pretty much the same around the world if they are global sports, whereas with horse racing, every country is different,” Hill said. “The riding styles are different, the racetracks are different, and the way people bet on the races is different. “I am fascinated by world racing and most of my misspent time at night is watching racing overseas.” While he has trekked around the world calling in various racing jurisdictions, he has yet to call a race in New Zealand. Something he is looking to rectify this weekend. “New Zealand is one that I have watched for a long time, especially the jumps with those beautiful big hedges, and I haven’t had a chance to travel over,” Hill said. “It will be a real bucket list item ticked.” The trip has been five years in the making, with the idea first fostered during a zoom call among New Zealand’s race callers during the COVID-19 lockdown. “During COVID, Justin Evans (Central Districts race caller) got all the (New Zealand) race callers together and they had monthly zoom meetings and I was one of their guests,” Hill said. “We talked about calling races internationally, and the one blip that I had not done was call races in New Zealand. Maryanne Twentyman (Entain Media Personnel Manager) and Justin were on the call, and they said they would have to get me over at some stage.” The opportunity finally arose this year and Hill is looking forward to heading to Wellington this weekend to help call the 10-race card alongside Evans. “They have been generous in inviting me, and I will spend a bit of time with Justin as well for a couple of days,” he said. “Justin is a very good, young caller and the more encouragement we can give all of the callers the better because we are a bit of a brethren and it is very rare for race callers from other countries to really get together.” Hill is particularly excited to be involved in one of New Zealand’s premier jumps meetings, and he is looking forward to mingling with the New Zealand jumping fraternity over the weekend. “Trentham is steeped in history and I love the jumps crowd,” he said. “They are so down to earth, and they share a mutual love for it, so it will be really lovely to meet the jumps community in New Zealand as well. “It is going to be great and really good fun.”

They do have a backup plan though, but they need a new grammar/spell checker! The Club will close entries for Tuesday’s trials on Friday 27 June at 12 noon. If there are insufficient entries to run the trials jumpouts will be run. Entries for the Jumpouts will close a 2.00 pm on Friday with the Club.

Been placed on the poly before.

Let alone the poor bloody horses which can't come on here and speak for themselves. TA, pm me. I can think of a couple of horses you could hop on and give them a dig with your spurs, so you can see what they have to say about it.

The HISA rules in the US are similar. I assume that is what it is intended the flank rule to mean here and elsewhere that it exists, but I think these are clearer about that. Riders may not raise their wrists above their helmets prior to striking a horse, nor may they hit the horse anywhere other than the shoulder or hindquarters.

Perhaps, though I think the BHA rule is written more clearly to avoid misinterpretation: f) A rider must only use the whip on the hindquarters of the horse in either the forehand or backhand position or down the shoulder with the whip in the backhand position.

(f) Without limiting the generality of subrule 638(3)(e), in a Flat Race or Jumping Race, a Trial (including jump-outs and/or tests for certification purposes) a Rider must not use their or her whip: (i) forward of the Rider’s horse’s shoulder or in the vicinity of its head; or (ii) using an action that raises the Rider’s arm above shoulder height; or (iii) when the Rider’s horse is out of contention of finishing in the first five placings; or [Amended 12 February 2025] (iv) when the Rider’s horse is showing no response; or (v) after passing the winning post; or (vi) in a manner that causes a welt and/or injury to the Rider’s horse; or (Amended 12 February 2025]) (vii) when the Rider’s horse is clearly winning; or (viii) when the Rider’s horse has no reasonable prospect of improving or losing its position; or (ix) in a manner where the seam of the flap is the point of contact with the horse, unless the Rider satisfies the Stewards that that was neither deliberate nor reckless. (x) on the flank of the Rider’s horse; or (Added 12 February 20252025) (xi) forward of the Rider’s saddle whilst the whip is held in the forehand position

They have acted today on the arm above shoulder issue. J Parker (GEORGIAN WARRIOR) - Admitted a charge in that he used his whip with an action which raised the rider’s arm above shoulder height on four occasions in the final straight. After considering submissions the Adjudicative Committee imposed a fine of $400

AMENDMENTS TO THE WHIP RULES (RULE 638(3)(c)) After very careful consideration, New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing has decided to make some changes to the Rules regarding the use of the whip. These changes were initiated by the International Federation of Horseracing Authorities to try to achieve consistency with the use of the whip by Jockeys over the world. As you will be aware, the use of the whip during a race is seen by many people as cruel and unless we take steps to change that perception we could face increasing opposition. The changes to the Rules are for the welfare of the horse, to demonstrate that we are serious about caring for our horses. The new Rules are intended to make sure that whips are not used in such a way that they cause unnecessary pain during a race. The changes to the Rules will come into effect next Wednesday (12th February). These changes are: The whip must not be used if you are not in contention of running in the first five placings. – The whip should only be used to get the best out of your horse when in contention. It is not a good look for horses out of contention to be getting hit with the whip. The whip must not be used on a horse’s flank. – The horse’s flank is a very sensitive area and getting hit there is painful. This area must be avoided. The whip must not be used forward of the saddle whilst it is held in the forehand position. – A horse’s shoulder, neck and head are also sensitive areas and should not be hit with any force. Tapping the shoulder using the whip in the downward position is ok. The whip must not be used in a manner which causes a welt and or injury. – Whips should be used for encouragement and not to cause injury. Injuries and welts may be seen by spectators or on television and makes racing look bad. In essence, most Jockeys will not have to make any changes to the way they use the whip currently, as it is not common for it to be used in a way which would breach the new Rules. The new Rules are to show that there is no intention to use the whip irresponsibly. The new Rules are not intended to collect more money in fines, the best outcome would be if no jockey was ever found guilty of breaking them. The rule amendments will be published shortly and will be available on the LoveRacing website. These are added to the existing rules, please check the rule book for all whip rules.

I just posted their response to a roadshow question about this on another site :} It is in line with what you say above: We are comfortable with the current Whip Rules and where they sit on an international scale. Minor amendments were processed last week following the Asian Racing Conference’s Rules Harmonisation meeting. We will continue to work the Racing Integrity Board to ensure that any breaches of the Whip Rules are dealt with appropriately under the Penalty Guidelines