Pak Star 1,224 Report post Posted February 1 32 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: Ye Gods Gryllsy…..Chaource take 2 on Hot Mama…… Textbook ride on Talisker thankfully. Also on board and agree with your Sindee and Lord of the Sea selections Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stodge 2,557 Report post Posted February 1 Apologies for not submitting any selections yesterday. Down south with the brother in law and his family and it was a bit mad yesterday. In the best traditions of after timing, five winners from ten selections but on level stakes just about broke even. Anyway, as someone once said “yesterday’s gone and now all I want is a smile” Gore stages a ten race card and if you want competitive racing, once again the provincial South Island is your friend. There seem a lot of horses and few opportunities - the argument for extra South Island country fixtures looks irrefutable to this observer but as seems to be the case, does anyone in NZTR know or understand? I expect there will be a decent crowd and a good holiday atmosphere down there and good luck to the club. Four to avoid like a cheap tribute band: 12.28: RED MOON RISING 1.03: TIKKI 1.36: INTERCEPT 4.03: PIVOTAL TEN Nothing very original here but I presume those drawn out with the picnic people are going to struggle. The Gore Guineas looks a decent race and PIVOTAL TEN looks the form horse , albeit facing some unexposed types coming off maiden wins on the west coast circuit early in January. I don’t know the extent to which the Omoto, Reefton and Kumara transfers beyond that circuit in terms of quality. That’s not to disparage such form - someone will tell me a future Group 1 winner started life winning a Hokitika maiden back in the day - but it’s not easy for this observer to quantify the strength of that form even within South Island country racing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaird 603 Report post Posted February 1 Half sister to Return To Conquer races in race 2 at Sale today, Lady Lawbreaker #14, 17's into 6.50 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 6,489 Report post Posted February 1 No great shakes at Gore but a couple of interest… R5 Xrated $5 - ran on well last start R6 The Immigrant $9 - consistent R7 Caledonie $17 - best North form right in this, Kate H might help. R8 Pivotal Ten $3 and Airpark Hustler $16 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stodge 2,557 Report post Posted February 2 Decent ground at Gore as it turned out. CHUPALLA did a passable imitation of ARAZI’s Breeders Cup Juvenile run slicing through the field and travelling strongly but found little in the straight albeit keeping on well for second. This was her first run on decent ground and showed a big form improvement. BONSAI BOB flew home for fourth - he hadn’t shown much but it was an eye catching finish. TIKKI continued her upward trajectory in the third and is another to follow over 1209m on decent turf. SEFTON was the clear winner of the R65 over 2000m. He possibly found Riccarton company too warm last time but back among the country horses he was very good. PIVOTAL TEN was an impressive winner of the Gore Guineas doing it from the front and clearing way from some unexposed types. This was her second Listed win having won at Wingatui on Boxing Day. The dam was an unraced mare trained in Britain by William Jarvis and was herself by Pivotal so you’d think she would prefer slow ground but she looked really good on today’s decent ground. Not sure where they will go with her but it will have to be to a metropolitan track. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
racingoutsider 392 Report post Posted February 2 1 minute ago, stodge said: PIVOTAL TEN was an impressive winner of the Gore Guineas doing it from the front and clearing way from some unexposed types. This was her second Listed win having won at Wingatui on Boxing Day. The dam was an unraced mare trained in Britain by William Jarvis and was herself by Pivotal so you’d think she would prefer slow ground but she looked really good on today’s decent ground. Not sure where they will go with her but it will have to be to a metropolitan track. Nope. Plan is for her to stay down there. Listed ILT Ascot Park Hotel Southland Guineas (1400m), run at Ascot Park on February 15. next. https://loveracing.nz/News/48228/PivotalTensensationalinGoreGuineasromp.aspx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 6,489 Report post Posted February 2 10 hours ago, stodge said: Decent ground at Gore as it turned out. CHUPALLA did a passable imitation of ARAZI’s Breeders Cup Juvenile run slicing through the field and travelling strongly but found little in the straight albeit keeping on well for second. This was her first run on decent ground and showed a big form improvement. BONSAI BOB flew home for fourth - he hadn’t shown much but it was an eye catching finish. TIKKI continued her upward trajectory in the third and is another to follow over 1209m on decent turf. SEFTON was the clear winner of the R65 over 2000m. He possibly found Riccarton company too warm last time but back among the country horses he was very good. PIVOTAL TEN was an impressive winner of the Gore Guineas doing it from the front and clearing way from some unexposed types. This was her second Listed win having won at Wingatui on Boxing Day. The dam was an unraced mare trained in Britain by William Jarvis and was herself by Pivotal so you’d think she would prefer slow ground but she looked really good on today’s decent ground. Not sure where they will go with her but it will have to be to a metropolitan track. Yes the firmer ground upset a few, suited Sefton who had raced well in the NI. Caledonie disappointing again, needs it wetter to find form. Pivotal Ten was impressive as you say, will be going for the Guineas triple crown in a couple of weeks. Airpark Hustler got too far back and ran on well for 4th at only his second start. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 5,254 Report post Posted February 3 19 hours ago, racingoutsider said: Nope. Plan is for her to stay down there. Listed ILT Ascot Park Hotel Southland Guineas (1400m), run at Ascot Park on February 15. next. https://loveracing.nz/News/48228/PivotalTensensationalinGoreGuineasromp.aspx Well done Colin W, you certainly have a good one. You must be really pleased with the stakes available at the moment. Wish I was getting a bigger share of them. Liz scooby3051 and Hedley Jordan 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stodge 2,557 Report post Posted February 5 Looking ahead to the Waitangi Day meeting at Tauherenikau which should attract a very decent crowd. A competitive card and some early thoughts hoping the ground will dry out a bit from the reported Soft 6. 12.38: FELUCCA 1.10: SHAMELESS STAR 2.52: FINEST HOUR 4.38: SONATA It’s all my fault, apparently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,693 Report post Posted February 5 Been following a horse called matador, big run yesterday out of his grade, and caught three wide the trip, only downside a tough run, and the divvy probably gone for next time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 6,489 Report post Posted February 5 R3 Stick with Vickezzmargaux - not much luck lately. Thrilling a chance. R6 Manzor Blue R8 Sonata Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,948 Report post Posted February 7 craig is a nice rider in NZ but if he went overseas he would probably be a laughing stock imho,, they wouldnt tolerate the handbrake leading tactics.[ i like Alaskan tomorrow against Leica Lucy, we witnessed today when jazzy got cold on Kaimai Warrior on a rails bias early of the potential with the talented fav not making ground in the run home behind the Derby nominated but with no chance without favours Grey Area ....Tauranga is a joke , its always unfair and should of been removed before Paeroa got lost to the Developers....bullshit....this game is full of bullshit tracks and piss poor rides with no integrity unit to be seen......At least greyhounds try every time they jump.... if you cant tell if your jockey is trying you need a good kick up the ass Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stodge 2,557 Report post Posted February 7 11 hours ago, Gruff said: craig is a nice rider in NZ but if he went overseas he would probably be a laughing stock imho,, they wouldnt tolerate the handbrake leading tactics.[ i like Alaskan tomorrow against Leica Lucy, we witnessed today when jazzy got cold on Kaimai Warrior on a rails bias early of the potential with the talented fav not making ground in the run home behind the Derby nominated but with no chance without favours Grey Area ....Tauranga is a joke , its always unfair and should of been removed before Paeroa got lost to the Developers....bullshit....this game is full of bullshit tracks and piss poor rides with no integrity unit to be seen......At least greyhounds try every time they jump.... if you cant tell if your jockey is trying you need a good kick up the ass As we say where I come from - well, quite. I’ve commented before on the differences between the tempo of NZ and UK racing. This thing about breaking fast from the gates, getting to the front and then stacking up the other runners before kicking for home - I’m not saying it doesn’t happen in the UK but I think our longer straights mitigate against it. At a Doncaster or Newbury where the straight is 800m, you couldn’t do it, the others have time to get position and challenge. UK racing is generally run at a more even tempo unlike US racing where they go hard from the start or French racing where they crawl and then sprint. World class jockeys can both adapt and evolve as they gain experience in other jurisdictions - I think both Kevin Stott and George Rooke have shown what they have learned riding in the UK can be of huge benefit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 5,591 Report post Posted February 7 9 minutes ago, stodge said: World class jockeys can both adapt and evolve as they gain experience in other jurisdictions - I think both Kevin Stott and George Rooke have shown what they have learned riding in the UK can be of huge benefit. I think you'll find these two guys are simply levels above most of our jockeys . They could do well in most jurisdictions in the world . Most of our home grown jockeys would starve if they had to make their living outside of NZ . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stodge 2,557 Report post Posted February 7 On to today’s action and to be fair there’s something for everyone with a strong quality card at Te Rapa and a distinctly competitive set of races at Wingatui. A chance to have a little analysis time overlooking the Tasman this morning has yielded the following options. Te Rapa: 1.03: DETAIN 2.10: LEICA LUCY 3.28: LADIES MAN 4.03: BOURBON PROOF 4.38: GRAIL SEEKER 5.12: RAYET Wingatui: 12.45: BELARDO ACE 1.18: HAKADECREE 3.35: MAYOR OF NORWOOD I know @Gruffwill be taking on LEICA LUCY with ALASKAN and from a punting point of view I completely respect that. LEICA LUCY does have the form and she was very good last time but in a field of lightly raced and unexposed fillies it’s possible one of the others could improve past her. Taking 9.50 on ALASKAN is a sporting punt unless you’re the kind of big player who is happy taking 1.6 on the favourite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie E 794 Report post Posted February 7 Savaglee different kettle of fish today I don't think can win in that field . I like Luberon but what a shocking draw . If they go hard and get a tow into it would love to see him win Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 5,591 Report post Posted February 7 12 minutes ago, Charlie E said: Savaglee different kettle of fish today I don't think can win in that field . I like Luberon but what a shocking draw . If they go hard and get a tow into it would love to see him win Yeah I'm not convinced by Savaglee , hasn't really beaten anything in my book and never run great time . Next couple of starts might prove me wrong . Charlie E 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaird 603 Report post Posted February 7 Savaglee’s Guineas win came in a sizzling time of 1:33.86 – the third-fastest recorded in the race. It was beaten only by Xtravagant’s 1:33.59 in 2015 and Ugo Foscolo’s 1:33.81 a year later. Charlie E 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 6,489 Report post Posted February 7 Good racing today all over the place.. Te Rapa R5 Risque Ruler in great form, Our Time backed. R6 La Crique short at $2.70..Sharp n’ Smart might improve here at this trip $19 R7 Interested to see how Carisbrooke Castle goes here.Stable is pushing on $34 R8 Looks like Grail Seeker but best run will win. Aussie not here for the scenery. R9 Inspired by Art the smokey. December the obvious. Wingatui R8 Interested to see King of the Castle back from Oz to original stable. Well up to these but better second up $13 Caulfield R8 Old Munhamek looks ready to win again....meets the two who beat it last time 5 and 5.5kg better off - $7.50 good value R9 Mr Brightside expected to win but short. Maher pair Another Wil and Southport Tycoon expected to go well. nomates and Charlie E 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 5,591 Report post Posted February 7 10 minutes ago, Blaird said: Savaglee’s Guineas win came in a sizzling time of 1:33.86 – the third-fastest recorded in the race. It was beaten only by Xtravagant’s 1:33.59 in 2015 and Ugo Foscolo’s 1:33.81 a year later. Yeah but Riccarton is always fast at the cup meeting , I never take notice of the times there , look at what he beat , terrible field and not one of the beaten horses has put in a decent run since , I said I'm not convinced , yet , happy to be proven wrong . Charlie E 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 5,591 Report post Posted February 7 10 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: Good racing today all over the place.. Te Rapa R5 Risque Ruler in great form, Our Time backed. R6 La Crique short at $2.70..Sharp n’ Smart might improve here at this trip $19 R7 Interested to see how Carisbrooke Castle goes here.Stable is pushing on $34 R8 Looks like Grail Seeker but best run will win. Aussie not here for the scenery. R9 Inspired by Art the smokey. December the obvious. Wingatui R8 Interested to see King of the Castle back from Oz to original stable. Well up to these but better second up $13 Caulfield R8 Old Munhamek looks ready to win again....meets the two who beat it last time 5 and 5.5kg better off - $7.50 good value R9 Mr Brightside expected to win but short. Maher pair Another Wil and Southport Tycoon expected to go well. Only having one bet today , Inspired by Art , very impressive winning fresh up back in November , ran great sectionals . Only issue is the stable and rider aren't going great . Blaird 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlahan's Dream 686 Report post Posted February 8 Two longish shots for me today. Wing r,6 My Degree. Hampered badly last stat, had more Te Rapa, Sprint - Navigator. Did well against fave at Trentham - Grail Seeker too good probably but $26 seems overs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaird 603 Report post Posted February 8 Former Derby winner Astrix is racing at Randwick race 9 number 1, a couple of Aussie tipsters have it in their picks, currently at $71 and $13, they said it has trialed well. Now in the Waller stable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlahan's Dream 686 Report post Posted February 8 Jeez hope that jock is ok. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pak Star 1,224 Report post Posted February 8 4 minutes ago, Houlahan's Dream said: Jeez hope that jock is ok. It looked pretty bad. Horse seemed to roll over top of her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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