gubellini 4,003 Report post Posted July 23, 2022 Rev take a look at those 8 jockeys that fell at Rotorua in that race. All were highly skilled talented horsemen. I remember that race as vividly as you do. Must say that when I hear mug punters bagging a jockey I shake my head in disbelief. jack, diesel, elbow and 3 others 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berri 2,131 Report post Posted July 23, 2022 Apart from the fact that the management of these tracks is abysmal, and everyone involved should take a knee, the real issue is the track structure. If you have bad track management, and every increasing health and safety and animal rights pressures, then you've got to start looking at the originating flaw. Our tracks should not have a bend just as horses need to be accelerating. We need to have straights of at least 800m. or bends that are soft enough to set up a 600m straight. If you have horses accelerating on bad racing surfaces, with inexperienced or people who don't properly keep horses balance when accelerating going around bends, then you will have problems. It's actually that simple. Pam Robson, Baz (NZ), dock leaf and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contentious 616 Report post Posted July 23, 2022 8 hours ago, Palliser said: It's basically fuked, and getting worse. I can't think of anything positive to say yep - just like NPC rugby, Ranfurly shield, NZ cricket - thank heavens we are still able to record and watch Shortland Street Pam Robson, Palliser and diesel 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnipOrange 149 Report post Posted July 23, 2022 13 hours ago, Black Kirrama said: Gub....no official Judicial attached to the Arawa Park web site. Horrific falls at Arawa Park . I drove Tony Williams , J F Grylls and Earl Harrison and maybe Johnny Hayes to a race day at Arawa Park. Gub what was the date of Tony's fall ??? February 1986 ??) I was on the Judicial ,side on Video camera and videod the fall. I had video Tape rights to many Waikato and Counties courses. And Judicial contracts.as I did at the Rotorua Races. There was that calamity race fall on a slippery surface at Arawa Park and Tony Williams never walked again and spent nearly 3 decades in a wheel chair. His beautiful wife Jenny never flinched. I never showed the VHS copy of Tony William's race fall video after the Judicial viewing. Tony saw the race repay of his Rotorua fall just once at his Conifer Grove [property . He said {" "I will be back riding Revy, just a matter of time but I need a new piss bag tonight " and laughed . The Tony Williams laugh. I fell in the race with all those jockeys. From what I remember track was ok and from my memory we kept racing? Didn't the lead horse break his shoulder and brought TG down with the rest of us going over top of each other. I spent most nights having a drink with TG at his house and he had the video of the fall that we watched a couple of times. Rotorua is a tight track and can be a little bit false going but in my opinion not Dangerous ! We're Doomed 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnipOrange 149 Report post Posted July 23, 2022 Also I thought TG flew down to Rotorua that day as he took over Brian Yorks rides because his GF wouldn't let him ride as he was getting married that night in Auckland Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,917 Report post Posted July 24, 2022 This is being proactive..or at least looking like it.... Track inspection changes to be implemented after anger over late Ipswich abandonment Racing Queensland has listened to calls to improve its raceday abandonment procedure after the Ipswich track debacle on Wednesday. Trenton Aker Racing officials will inspect the Ipswich track the day before any meeting until a renovation is completed later this year. Racing Queensland will ensure horses are galloped over the Ipswich track the day before a meeting in future following the late abandonment of Wednesday’s Ipswich card, which was labelled a “disgrace” by the state’s premier trainer. Tempers reached boiling point on Wednesday after stewards made the call to cancel the meeting less than an hour before the first race, despite the track being rated a Soft 5. Acknowledging Tony Gollan’s call to “take human error out of the equation”, Racing Queensland says it will now inspect Ipswich a day earlier than usual. “Going forward, they have a race meeting next Friday, so on the Thursday we will put a couple of horses over it,” Racing Queensland executive general manager Adam Wallish said. “We will have their track staff there, along with QRIC and some representatives from the (Australian Trainers Association) and (Queensland Jockeys Association) “If the weather is coming, we will do it again on the Friday morning. “It will give us a much better indication by having some horses go over it. “Unfortunately it has cost people a lot of time and money, so our raceday abandonment procedure will kick in and we will review that with QRIC now so we don’t find ourselves in these circumstances again. “We have heard what they’ve said and it is the right thing to do going forward.” Further to the changes, Wallish said Ipswich would be renovated in September in an attempt to fix the ongoing problems at the track. “We are taking the track out for renovation pretty much all of September,” he said. “It didn’t get a renovation this year, then we have had the weather we have had, which hasn’t helped the situation. “We will take it offline, do a proper reno there, they will fix the chutes up when we are there. “We will have a look at this problem area while we are there doing the problem area too.” It comes as the Brisbane Racing Club ruled out any possibility of moving Saturday’s Doomben meeting across the road to Eagle Farm due to wet weather. After carrying a heavy workload during the winter, Eagle Farm is on a tight maintenance schedule heading into spring and would be unsuitable to race this weekend. Pam Robson 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow 229 Report post Posted July 24, 2022 21 hours ago, DICKSON CIDER said: Was a track inspection done yesterday by the stipes. if not why not ? Well who's responsible for producing a track fit for racing the RIU No, the Stipes No, The Racing club yes. You can point the finger a who ever you thing has the say to abandoned a meeting but when a track is produced like yesterday the Club should of called it off simply that with recent racing the track has not recovered sufficiently to have that meeting. It's up to the track manager to inform his club of any issues relating to the track for upcoming meetings any time of the year and if the club doesn't act on those then the responsibility belongs to them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pole 53 Report post Posted July 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Contentious said: yep - just like NPC rugby, Ranfurly shield, NZ cricket - thank heavens we are still able to record and watch Shortland Street Nothing positive about the course and facilities at Arawa Park. Black Kirrama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulebacker 43 Report post Posted July 24, 2022 So what changed in the last 24 hours to make the track unsafe ??- Basically Nothing. The weather was fine and calm with no rain, - So when a Club has its monthly Meeting -No one checks the track a day before or two - Really ????? - this is the level of incompetenece in this industry. You guys think its all acceptable - I think its A JOKE I know of no industry where the job is cancelled on the day because no one bothered to check everything was in place the day before. But in the monopoly that is NZ Racing that is all acceptable and no penalty Baz (NZ), Leggy, chevy86 and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_gee 416 Report post Posted July 24, 2022 so if we close rotorua it leave te aroha n te rapa for jumping and we all know peoples thoughts of that track of late we suppose be known for wet track runners n jumpers how long before we ain't known for anything bar breeding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,084 Report post Posted July 25, 2022 4 hours ago, mr_gee said: so if we close rotorua it leave te aroha n te rapa for jumping and we all know peoples thoughts of that track of late we suppose be known for wet track runners n jumpers how long before we ain't known for anything bar breeding Except we won't have much proven to breed from. Huey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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napier 339 Report post Posted July 25, 2022 Why not let the track managers do their job and stop dictating to them what needs to be done. They know their job unlike the suits doing the dictating. If they fail they are gone....same should be said for the ones making the the decisions from above ( but they dont fail apparently ) L.J.Shannon, Insider and Huey 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,960 Report post Posted July 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, napier said: Why not let the track managers do their job and stop dictating to them what needs to be done. They know their job unlike the suits doing the dictating. If they fail they are gone....same should be said for the ones making the the decisions from above ( but they dont fail apparently ) I agree with you 100%. Bruce Sharrock (already) seems to be tarred with the same brush as his predecessors ever since but not included Alan Fenwick. Sorry Bruce but that was a load of rhetoric otherwise know as waffle or crap explaining how you as a man in charge (suit) was going to fix the current, but like your predecessors can’t, because we no longer have the number of tracks at our disposable to cover our weather conditions. Only when you realise that the dates that were in place 30 years ago based on the climate of the various areas was the only one that worked, will be, when sanity will prevail. NZ Cup Carnival in November. Auckland Cup/Derby across Christmas/New Year Wellington Cup Carnival Mid to late January. Great Northerns Queens Birthday (Bum sorry the hill is sold) etc Do you think they will change the Caulfield/Melbourne Cup dates? As my Nana would say....not on your nelly! Baz (NZ), Leggy, We're Doomed and 3 others 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,425 Report post Posted July 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Baz (NZ) said: Maybe a mention of the Hawera abandoment should have been referrenced. That hurt too as abandoned 30 mins before first race. Otherwise this statement should be taken in spirit it is meant and lets hope its a line in the sand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz (NZ) 1,722 Report post Posted July 26, 2022 22 hours ago, shaneMcAlister said: Maybe a mention of the Hawera abandonment should have been referrenced. That hurt too as abandoned 30 mins before first race. Otherwise this statement should be taken in spirit it is meant and lets hope its a line in the sand. Yep it's worse when costs are incurred on top of abandonment's which could otherwise be averted. I had one nominated at Woodville 14 July ABANDONED.! Nominated again Otaki 30 July ABANDONED ! Now been in the paddock for over month! It's difficult trying to get them race fit for Heavy 10 track conditions and up-comng targets when these abandonment's puts your program back 6 weeks! Black Kirrama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palliser 759 Report post Posted July 27, 2022 On 7/24/2022 at 10:15 AM, Contentious said: yep - just like NPC rugby, Ranfurly shield, NZ cricket - thank heavens we are still able to record and watch Shortland Street So true Contentious, we got Lydia though but our stupid sports reporters never support our greatest golfer. Got 3rd this week, not a mention on TV 1 sports that night grrrr .. coz it's not bloody rugby Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...