scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted June 9, 2022 48 minutes ago, Grey Ghost said: The issue is the lack of investment in tracks and facilities. First Foxton has no facilities for raceday so stop taking about them like there a silver bullet or should the Club build those facilities? How many years ago did they lose those and still nothing to replace them? So what do Cambridge have ???, theirs are all prefab looking things how hard would it be to set up something temporary there...no silver bullet just commonsense I would of thought. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE TORCH 657 Report post Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/5/2022 at 8:40 PM, MrBigStuff said: Doesn’t make for good racing though, lets all scramble to get to the fast lane Hang on - how many meetings or races are dictated by the inside draws??? Now we have a track that favours those with "bad" draws and its not acceptable. Please. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Hussai 416 Report post Posted June 10, 2022 Trentham gone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted June 14, 2022 This is called preparing or repairing the track...track maintenance like we used to in the old days before we started just throwing sand in the holes instead of replacing the sods...maybe guys we should get back to old ways????The tracks just might be a wee bit better for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,070 Report post Posted June 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, scooby3051 said: This is called preparing or repairing the track...track maintenance like we used to in the old days before we started just throwing sand in the holes instead of replacing the sods...maybe guys we should get back to old ways????The tracks just might be a wee bit better for it I take it that Is not Whanganuis flash grandstand ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow 226 Report post Posted July 8, 2022 Wanganui Report put out they now have lost another 3 meetings because of their remedial work done on the 1400m corner makes you wonder what they have done to a track that use to race 12 months of the year for the last 130 0dd years. Interesting to note if they pass what is required, the Guineas meeting will only precede if the weather is suitable a week before racing on the surface they have made. So now its fine weather track WTF Memphis3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTeaz 119 Report post Posted July 8, 2022 Woodville to host jumps meetings. How many years since that was the case? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstrip 25 Report post Posted July 8, 2022 Can anyone confirm the reason Whanganui is out of action because someone form NZTR thought it would be a good idea to put soil from another region on a sandy track on a problem area ? seems the sort of thing NZTR would do.... I think that is 90% of our problem with our tracks that the divets aren't replaced straight after a meeting like they used to mckenzie 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Bidlake 759 Report post Posted July 8, 2022 50 minutes ago, JTeaz said: My old fella went around in September 2012 and that's the last I can remember. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted July 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, nstrip said: Can anyone confirm the reason Whanganui is out of action because someone form NZTR thought it would be a good idea to put soil from another region on a sandy track on a problem area ? seems the sort of thing NZTR would do.... I think that is 90% of our problem with our tracks that the divets aren't replaced straight after a meeting like they used to yep just stick sand in now thats most of the problem right there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow 226 Report post Posted July 8, 2022 2 hours ago, JTeaz said: Woodville to host jumps meetings. How many years since that was the case? Woodville not deemed a Jumps Venue yet he it is and one that was put to the sword for closure, aren't they fortunate these tracks like Woodville and Hawera aren't closed as they would have none to prop up the industry, hope they remember them when these other tracks are operationally again and the synthetic at Awapuni is going that they don't miss out on race dates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow 226 Report post Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, nstrip said: Can anyone confirm the reason Whanganui is out of action because someone form NZTR thought it would be a good idea to put soil from another region on a sandy track on a problem area ? seems the sort of thing NZTR would do.... I think that is 90% of our problem with our tracks that the divets aren't replaced straight after a meeting like they used to Hard to get a consistent racing surface doing that, I bet they don't fix the problem that they have created but live with problem by doing this and doing that but hay the problem will still be there until they remove it. Honestly a basic renovation done by amateurs Memphis3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garryb 18 Report post Posted July 10, 2022 I worked on the part time track staff at Awapuni in 1970s. Race day we checked all the turns and the landing points for the jumps and came back on Sunday and four of us went round the track twice looking for divots and filling them. Cunning buggers used to pay us on Saturday morning and usually on Sunday went to work we had spent all our wages the day before Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garryb 18 Report post Posted July 10, 2022 Meant to say Ivan Lord was the track manager and his father and two sons knew how to look after the track. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted July 10, 2022 Awapuni was a great track back in the day long long ago sadly. We're Doomed 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow 226 Report post Posted July 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, scooby3051 said: Awapuni was a great track back in the day long long ago sadly. Amazing all the improvements and money spent on the track and the track has gone backwards Why? Look at Randwick yesterday heavy 9 with 240mm rainfall last week, shows you how far we are behind in producing racecourses in this day and age We're Doomed 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted July 10, 2022 The guy in charge of the tracks needs to go..its on his watch but nothing ever seems to happen...just a joke. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,824 Report post Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, scooby3051 said: Awapuni was a great track back in the day long long ago sadly. I used to go to virtually every meeting at Awapuni during the 80s. It was always a great track with great racing. There were never any complaints about the track. Got the Margaret Bull trifecta in a big race one day, Magnitude and a couple of others. You do wonder how it all went so wrong. The club was so well run, Bill Freeman and several other good administrators. I know things have changed a lot, but you do wonder if some of those adninistrators where still about now whether the industry would have crashed so much. THE TORCH 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,824 Report post Posted July 10, 2022 Wouldn't you have loved to be in the room if NZTR had said to Bill Freeman and Jack Bennet that they were going to spend $15m on an AWT. Leggy, Insider and THE TORCH 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 3,453 Report post Posted July 10, 2022 47 minutes ago, We're Doomed said: I used to go to virtually every meeting at Awapuni during the 80s. It was always a great track with great racing. There were never any complaints about the track. Got the Margaret Bull trifecta in a big race one day, Magnitude and a couple of others. You do wonder how it all went so wrong. The club was so well run, Bill Freeman and several other good administrators. I know things have changed a lot, but you do wonder if some of those adninistrators where still about now whether the industry would have crashed so much. When i seen Hawera was off i was so pissed my wife , not a real racing person , asked "what did they do years ago ?" , i said to her i used to go to Trentham in July , all 3 days , amazing eh 3 days , unheard of , and that by the 3rd day the track was such a bog you could hardly see a green blade of grass , never seen them called off , never seen the jocks sooking , just got on with the fucken job , sometimes you couldn't make out the jockey colours . I told her about the day the track was so heavy that they ran a mile in 2mins and the day D Walsh rode a horse in a mile race and raced on the outside rail the whole way and won . Those were the days racing was GREAT . THE TORCH, mckenzie, Leggy and 3 others 5 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapper 18 Report post Posted July 10, 2022 Yes they were Nerula won on all three days on more than one occasion I think with Noel McCutcheon the rider Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,080 Report post Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, nomates said: When i seen Hawera was off i was so pissed my wife , not a real racing person , asked "what did they do years ago ?" , i said to her i used to go to Trentham in July , all 3 days , amazing eh 3 days , unheard of , and that by the 3rd day the track was such a bog you could hardly see a green blade of grass , never seen them called off , never seen the jocks sooking , just got on with the fucken job , sometimes you couldn't make out the jockey colours . I told her about the day the track was so heavy that they ran a mile in 2mins and the day D Walsh rode a horse in a mile race and raced on the outside rail the whole way and won . Those were the days racing was GREAT . On several occasions the track was awash but never a hint of abandonment and no such thing as a "false rail". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapper 18 Report post Posted July 10, 2022 I Believe one of the sadist days for nz racing was when jacks Bennets son David sadly lost his life he would take no shit from anyone and was really passionate about racing . Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,824 Report post Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Blue said: On several occasions the track was awash but never a hint of abandonment and no such thing as a "false rail". Was it Colman that Walsh rode on the outside fence all the way to win at Trentham? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,007 Report post Posted July 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, We're Doomed said: Was it Colman that Walsh rode on the outside fence all the way to win at Trentham? I've been scratching my brain trying to remember. I think you may be right WD. I still don't see why surface water makes a track unsafe. They used to just splash through it as long as the footing is secure. ?????? 1-15 12 May 84 1600m $3,800 WELL Soft C3 , 138 David Walsh $2,450 138, Flat Bar: SP: $0.00 Rtg: Wgt: 52.5 Car: 53.0 LWD: 49.5 2: Love Money, 54.0 3: Under The Clock, 52.0 2 LEN:NOSE Hedley Jordan 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...