mulebacker 19 Report post Posted May 19 After Screwing up the ride of Tiratore - who was by far the best horse on many different measures . Why is he still riding ?he cant see gaps or read races anymore arjay 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gubellini 3,187 Report post Posted May 19 Tony ironic that Chris won the very next race on Platinum Petals. Your analytical approach to punting is well and good but horse racing is not an exact science. One thing I can guarantee is that in your last 100 bets your selection has finished more seconds than firsts. Am I wrong? Eastwood Jaunty 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mulebacker 19 Report post Posted May 19 Of course he won the next race that I I dont back I analyse 400 horses today here in in OZ for 1 Bet or maybe 2 a day. ANd it all goes in the rubbish when Johnson who had clear air on his outside chooses the inner path which was already closing off. At 55 or so his relexes are no longer up to it . Lots of 2nds but no value in place bets for many reasons. Occasionally I do the Exactas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arjay 282 Report post Posted May 19 I do not accept he had clear air. Took the inner route as a horse came within a length and quarter on his outer. Besides the winner made won too well for anyway. Go drown the sorrows at your local. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scooby3051 6,661 Report post Posted May 19 I thought both the winner and the 2nd horse were bloody good rides just the inside horse got the gap and Chris didn't I think you are crying in your beer for no reason. Eastwood Jaunty 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poundforpound 641 Report post Posted May 19 I had a look too They drew 1 & 2 I think, read what you will into that The winner just inserted itself into the hole behind the leader on the turn, simply because it was going better CWJ didn’t lose any forward momentum when he switched out after he realized he’d been beaten to that run up the fence, and after the line the winner was far stronger Not sure how many Mulebacker has ridden but in this instance I think he’s manifestly wrong and should withdraw what is quite a disparaging and unfair comment arjay, elbow, Tauhei Notts and 3 others 5 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leggy 3,267 Report post Posted May 19 50 minutes ago, poundforpound said: I had a look too They drew 1 & 2 I think, read what you will into that The winner just inserted itself into the hole behind the leader on the turn, simply because it was going better CWJ didn’t lose any forward momentum when he switched out after he realized he’d been beaten to that run up the fence, and after the line the winner was far stronger Not sure how many Mulebacker has ridden but in this instance I think he’s manifestly wrong and should withdraw what is quite a disparaging and unfair comment I've had a look too. Twice. Totally agree. JJ Flash and Hedley Jordan 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mulebacker 19 Report post Posted May 19 He did lose forward momentum and that is worth more than a length on the line. And of course how dare I criticise a ride by a "famous" jockey. Better cancel my account for hate speech. I have ridden 3 horses in my riding career. From the rank ponies at Dude Ranch to equally nasty animals at a Napier Pony trek. All thoroughly unpleasant beasts the lot of them Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Memphis3 343 Report post Posted May 19 While we are criticising jocks how about the poor effort on Behemoth last time. Looked like he knew where to go but the jock had other ideas. Same bird on it tomo so be interesting to see how it pans out. NB worked on a farm st Tinui way back doing a lambing beat and did an horse industry skills course which including riding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Memphis3 343 Report post Posted May 21 Same person attached to its back. Same result Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tauhei Notts 1,146 Report post Posted May 21 Tauhei is a locality in the Waikato. When in Christchurch the Yaldhurst is my favourite pub. Not flash, nor pretentious, just a great N.Z. pub that attracts people who are interesting to chat with. Add that to reasonably priced food, competent tote operators and beer chilled to the optimum temperature. Which Wellington pub would Racecafers recommend to me. Today is a bit sad as my favourite drinking hole in Auckland is closing. It never had a TAB, but it always attracted interesting people to chat with. And the proprietor reminds me of Aristotle's famous quote; "There is a mixture of madness in the most excellent of men." jack, Pam Robson and dock leaf 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Memphis3 343 Report post Posted May 21 Yes the place will be missed. I wonder how many people on here have paid it a visit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poundforpound 641 Report post Posted May 22 2 hours ago, Tauhei Notts said: Tauhei is a locality in the Waikato. When in Christchurch the Yaldhurst is my favourite pub. Not flash, nor pretentious, just a great N.Z. pub that attracts people who are interesting to chat with. Add that to reasonably priced food, competent tote operators and beer chilled to the optimum temperature. Which Wellington pub would Racecafers recommend to me. Today is a bit sad as my favourite drinking hole in Auckland is closing. It never had a TAB, but it always attracted interesting people to chat with. And the proprietor reminds me of Aristotle's famous quote; "There is a mixture of madness in the most excellent of men." I presume I’ll be seeing you today ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leggy 3,267 Report post Posted May 22 1 hour ago, Memphis3 said: Yes the place will be missed. I wonder how many people on here have paid it a visit. I'm afraid my only visit was when it was in the early hours one morning when it was still a glint in the eye of the proprietor. Hopefully, I can make a visit to the new version up the road. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tasman man 719 Report post Posted May 22 39 minutes ago, poundforpound said: I presume I’ll be seeing you today ? My apologies for today.....I ambled past this morning ,and saw preparations underway for the last dance ! Of course , the two places next door will no doubt carry on the the traditions. When one door closes , another two will be open ! Memphis3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
napier 310 Report post Posted May 22 On 5/19/2022 at 3:03 PM, mulebacker said: After Screwing up the ride of Tiratore - who was by far the best horse on many different measures . Why is he still riding ?he cant see gaps or read races anymore Think he would prefer the Ascot now..... Pam Robson 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tauhei Notts 1,146 Report post Posted May 22 I saw the Midget earlier today and he tells me the esteemed "Yaldie" is to be replaced by a huge shopping centre. The top deck of the public stand at Trentham = gone. The top deck of the public stand at Riccarton = gone. My favourite pub in Chch = nearly gone. My favourite drinking place in Auckland = gone. Nostalgia is not what it used to be. Basil brush, We're Doomed, Insider and 1 other 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idolmite 865 Report post Posted May 23 On 5/19/2022 at 3:03 PM, mulebacker said: After Screwing up the ride of Tiratore - who was by far the best horse on many different measures . Why is he still riding ?he cant see gaps or read races anymore I think your analysis might be the problem here. If you rate CWJ so low as a jockey how did his ride become your one horse to be on that day out of the 400 you analysed? We're Doomed 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gruff 2,315 Report post Posted May 23 On 5/19/2022 at 5:57 PM, poundforpound said: I had a look too They drew 1 & 2 I think, read what you will into that The winner just inserted itself into the hole behind the leader on the turn, simply because it was going better CWJ didn’t lose any forward momentum when he switched out after he realized he’d been beaten to that run up the fence, and after the line the winner was far stronger Not sure how many Mulebacker has ridden but in this instance I think he’s manifestly wrong and should withdraw what is quite a disparaging and unfair comment CWJ rode out to cross the horse drawn one so must of known Chow was going to exploit the rails if he decided to move out, not a ride deserving retirement by any stretch but the difference between winning and losing most likely.Muley has been wrong previously with his comments on Lochlinoch and does tend to post from his pocket.Easy making riding decisions on the couch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gruff 2,315 Report post Posted May 23 3 hours ago, Idolmite said: I think your analysis might be the problem here. If you rate CWJ so low as a jockey how did his ride become your one horse to be on that day out of the 400 you analysed? Fair point, and good to see you're not abusing Muley here Mitey , you're restraint has been noted Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idolmite 865 Report post Posted May 24 12 hours ago, Gruff said: Fair point, and good to see you're not abusing Muley here Mitey , you're restraint has been noted Your* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
We're Doomed 3,732 Report post Posted May 24 5 hours ago, Idolmite said: Your* His first you're was correct, the second not quite so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
say no more 382 Report post Posted May 24 Good grammar - the difference between knowing your shit and you're shit. Could drive yourself silly worrying about grammar on internet forums. My pet grammar peeve - "could of", "would of", "should of" - c'mon people we can do better Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gruff 2,315 Report post Posted May 24 6 hours ago, Idolmite said: Your* Not the first time I've made an error and I'm sure it will not be the last Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gruff 2,315 Report post Posted May 24 We can continue finding fault till the Cows come home on here. attitude improvement should be you're focus Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites