scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted May 10, 2022 I see he has been charged again...he can really ride, truly gifted, but you can't keep breaking the rules and not learn from it....it looks like he hit the horse around the head region. Some say the stewards have it in for him but he does not help himself by doing things like this...JMO Evidence Following the running of Race 6, a charge of improper use of the whip was brought against Apprentice Rider Mr W Pinn by the Stewards. The Information alleged W Pinn (POSH POROTENE) used his whip in an excessive, unnecessary and improper manner on two occasions just prior to the finish line. Mr Pinn, assisted by Apprentice Mentor Ms Clapperton, requested an adjournment of the hearing. Ms Clapperton said she had rung Mr Miller to whom Mr Pinn is apprenticed, and he had asked her to seek an adjournment. The charge is of a serious nature and needs to be taken seriously. Mr Miller would need time to look at the incident and speak with Mr Pinn before proceeding. The Adjudicative Committee took into account the reasons provided and considered it appropriate to grant an adjournment. The hearing will be heard at a mutually convenient date, with the time and place to be advised by the RIB. crustyngrizzly and JJ Flash 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,683 Report post Posted May 10, 2022 Looks like her hit the horse a couple of times earlier in the straight and then for what ever reason gave it a couple more and the way the horse reacted says plenty as to the location. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBigStuff 387 Report post Posted May 10, 2022 Evidence on the head on footage is pretty telling. Maybe if he can’t conduct himself properly he needs to give it away. In this day and age where animal welfare is so much in the spotlight, the game doesn’t need this sort of crap in the headlines Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted May 10, 2022 I think that is a bit strong...he needs to managed and if he has a temper get help to learn how to control it...I think as the horse missed the jump it made him look bad..hell it happens to all of us sometimes we want to lash out...but it just depends whether we do or not what the consequences are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerula 1,389 Report post Posted May 10, 2022 Go to the replay full screen and see if you can tell where he hits PP on the head . I dont see it on the head on Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted May 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, Nerula said: Go to the replay full screen and see if you can tell where he hits PP on the head . I dont see it on the head on It looks very close to the head but it cuts off before the second hit. It was definitely close to the head...JMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted June 1, 2022 I heard he got suspended again...from today..does anyone know if this is correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissJools 465 Report post Posted June 1, 2022 11 hours ago, scooby3051 said: I heard he got suspended again...from today..does anyone know if this is correct. Updated at 6.30am Thursday 2 June Suspended Riders: Ashvin Goindasamy | From close of racing Saturday 4 June to close of racing Saturday 11 June Darren Danis | From close of racing Wednesday 1 June to close of racing Monday 6 June Munna Alam | From close of racing Wednesday 1 June to close of racing Monday 6 June Trudy Thornton | From close of racing Wednesday 1 June to close of racing Wednesday 8 June Toni Moki | From close of racing Wednesday 25 May to close of racing Friday 17 June Jonathan Riddell | From close of racing Saturday 4 June to close of racing Monday 6 June Darryl Bradley | From close of racing Thursday 26 May to close of racing Friday 3 June Jonathan Riddell | From close of racing Wednesday 25 May to close of racing Thursday 2 June Kelsey Hannan | From close of racing Saturday 21 May to close of racing Saturday 4 June Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted June 1, 2022 I was told overnight he got 5 months...I hope he can sort out his problems he is a bloody gifted rider...horses just run for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,519 Report post Posted June 1, 2022 A little early at 6.30am Miss Jool's, the office hours are 10am to 3pm Will look later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,420 Report post Posted June 1, 2022 51 minutes ago, scooby3051 said: I was told overnight he got 5 months...I hope he can sort out his problems he is a bloody gifted rider...horses just run for him. This will be sad if this is fact. I somehow feel the industry needs him and he needs the industry. Both the industry and him will be better if they can sort their issues out between each other. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted June 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, shaneMcAlister said: This will be sad if this is fact. I somehow feel the industry needs him and he needs the industry. Both the industry and him will be better if they can sort their issues out between each other. Yes that is correct ...but he needs to just follow the rules like everyone else...truly a talented horseman thats for sure. Just Looking, shaneMcAlister and JJ Flash 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel 200 Report post Posted June 1, 2022 Yep, a real talent and always follow his rides as I'm sure many do. He could go a long way, or anywhere for that matter. Hopefully he can use the time away to re-charge mentally and physically and become the best all round rider that we know he can be. scooby3051 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,763 Report post Posted June 2, 2022 4 hours ago, scooby3051 said: I was told overnight he got 5 months...I hope he can sort out his problems he is a bloody gifted rider...horses just run for him. He is riding at Wanganui on Saturday. fermoy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis3 1,222 Report post Posted June 2, 2022 Wanganui is abandoned Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissJools 465 Report post Posted June 2, 2022 7 hours ago, TurnyTom said: A little early at 6.30am Miss Jool's, the office hours are 10am to 3pm Will look later No change: Ashvin Goindasamy | From close of racing Saturday 4 June to close of racing Saturday 11 June Darren Danis | From close of racing Wednesday 1 June to close of racing Monday 6 June Munna Alam | From close of racing Wednesday 1 June to close of racing Monday 6 June Trudy Thornton | From close of racing Wednesday 1 June to close of racing Wednesday 8 June Toni Moki | From close of racing Wednesday 25 May to close of racing Friday 17 June Jonathan Riddell | From close of racing Saturday 4 June to close of racing Monday 6 June Darryl Bradley | From close of racing Thursday 26 May to close of racing Friday 3 June Jonathan Riddell | From close of racing Wednesday 25 May to close of racing Thursday 2 June Kelsey Hannan | From close of racing Saturday 21 May to close of racing Saturday 4 June Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissJools 465 Report post Posted June 2, 2022 44 minutes ago, Memphis3 said: Wanganui is abandoned The Wanganui meeting is now being raced at Waverley and Wiremu Pinn is riding!! fermoy and Memphis3 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted June 2, 2022 30 minutes ago, MissJools said: The Wanganui meeting is now being raced at Waverley and Wiremu Pinn is riding!! Last meeting riding is Hastings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,683 Report post Posted June 4, 2022 Any reason why his name still not on Suspended Rider list ? Cannot be because he has further engagements because Goindasamy and Riddell suspensions were posted after their adjudications. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel 200 Report post Posted June 4, 2022 Not sure why it's not listed but will begin a 5 month suspension after Hastings. Another couple of wins today, particularly good ride on Platinum Bordeaux. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contentious 570 Report post Posted June 4, 2022 14 hours ago, chevy86 said: Any reason why his name still not on Suspended Rider list ? Cannot be because he has further engagements because Goindasamy and Riddell suspensions were posted after their adjudications. Probably because NZTR do not know that he is suspended - after all they have him listed now for rides at Matamata next Wednesday Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz (NZ) 1,719 Report post Posted June 4, 2022 https://racingintegrityboard.org.nz/decisions/otaki-maori-rc-6-may-2022-r6-heard-at-cambridge-1-june-2022-wiremu-pinn/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,683 Report post Posted June 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Baz (NZ) said: https://racingintegrityboard.org.nz/decisions/otaki-maori-rc-6-may-2022-r6-heard-at-cambridge-1-june-2022-wiremu-pinn/ Clarified, thanks Baz. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted June 5, 2022 I really hope he can come back after this we need talented people like him in our riding ranks not sitting on the sidelines...wish him well and hope he can take some time to get himself sorted...talented rider one of the best in NZ....and that pool is getting smaller and smaller. Memphis3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,883 Report post Posted June 5, 2022 This has nothing to do with Wiremu Pinn’s case, but it actually sickens me to see horses hit with the whip, when they are obviously not going to finish in a dividend bearing position. This horrible situation needs to addressed now. John Oatham, please take note. d.burrow - Joan 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...