Baz (NZ) 1,719 Report post Posted April 1, 2022 I've always been a fan of Te Akau based apprentice Niranjan Parmar. Just watch Race 1 at Avondale today aboard Pozzi Vibe and view his outstanding horsemanship to stay with the horse! Congrats to winning South Island based rider Tina Comignaghi who is also riding in great form. Memphis3, Gruff, Ned Kelly and 1 other 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted April 2, 2022 Yes he can ride and he follows instructions too... Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,824 Report post Posted April 2, 2022 Great ride from Tina. Didn't panic when that other horse went past her. Pam Robson and Baz (NZ) 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponderosa8 1,321 Report post Posted April 2, 2022 Wondering if anyone had some $$$ on it and how happy you were when it skipped clear turning for home. Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjay 447 Report post Posted April 2, 2022 Think Opie may get a holiday for his ride on Brando Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissJools 465 Report post Posted April 2, 2022 34 minutes ago, arjay said: Think Opie may get a holiday for his ride on Brando No holiday for Opie after his ride on Brando. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted April 2, 2022 33 minutes ago, arjay said: Think Opie may get a holiday for his ride on Brando Not so sure Arjay, few moving about there and no contact, we see tendencies for horses to follow others moving in and out on a regular basis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissJools 465 Report post Posted April 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Gruff said: Not so sure Arjay, few moving about there and no contact, we see tendencies for horses to follow others moving in and out on a regular basis. T Yanagida (GERMANICUS) - Admitted a charge of careless riding in that he permitted GERMANICUS to shift inwards near the 150 metres dictating BRANDO (O Bosson) inwards, which in turn dictated PROVIDENCEPROVIDES (W Pinn) inwards into the line of CAVALLO VELOCE (S McKay), which clipped a heel of PROVIDENCEPROVIDES and blundered badly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted April 2, 2022 1 hour ago, MissJools said: T Yanagida (GERMANICUS) - Admitted a charge of careless riding in that he permitted GERMANICUS to shift inwards near the 150 metres dictating BRANDO (O Bosson) inwards, which in turn dictated PROVIDENCEPROVIDES (W Pinn) inwards into the line of CAVALLO VELOCE (S McKay), which clipped a heel of PROVIDENCEPROVIDES and blundered badly. Dictating inwards? Brando was the first to move inwards albeit marginally but everytime we see head ons we see a horse shift the other follows to varying degrees, there was no contact so what was stopping Bosson holding his line? Nothing that unusual really, look at Carte Blanche at Avondale, if Spratt had of maintained her line the horse goes close to winning. It's a fine line MJ but stipendary stewards reports are not that accurate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis3 1,222 Report post Posted April 2, 2022 Anyone think that Wolverine was going to sail past the eventual winner. Had a fair heap of momentum up at the time. ivanthegreat, Gruff, Hedley Jordan and 2 others 1 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,451 Report post Posted April 2, 2022 17 minutes ago, Memphis3 said: Anyone think that Wolverine was going to sail past the eventual winner. Had a fair heap of momentum up at the time. No. And I was on Wolverine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted April 2, 2022 5 hours ago, Memphis3 said: Anyone think that Wolverine was going to sail past the eventual winner. Had a fair heap of momentum up at the time. I think she had her chance but had just come to the end of her run when the incident happened JMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,080 Report post Posted April 2, 2022 1 hour ago, scooby3051 said: I think she had her chance but had just come to the end of her run when the incident happened JMO. I think so too. Only four strides off the post and MB was pulling away at the post. Do you think Opie backed MB? Favourite was never going to win apart from coming around the turn Via the Cape. JMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted April 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Blue said: I think so too. Only four strides off the post and MB was pulling away at the post. Do you think Opie backed MB? Favourite was never going to win apart from coming around the turn Via the Cape. JMO. I think he had the choice but his colt just seemed to get lost...maybe first time this ws of going...can bring them undone...he looks a nice horse for next year though. Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjay 447 Report post Posted April 2, 2022 16 hours ago, MissJools said: T Yanagida (GERMANICUS) - Admitted a charge of careless riding in that he permitted GERMANICUS to shift inwards near the 150 metres dictating BRANDO (O Bosson) inwards, which in turn dictated PROVIDENCEPROVIDES (W Pinn) inwards into the line of CAVALLO VELOCE (S McKay), which clipped a heel of PROVIDENCEPROVIDES and blundered badly. It looked ugly at the time,and admit to having only watched head on twice. Cavallo Veloce lucky to stay upright I thought. Gruff and Blue 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted April 3, 2022 10 hours ago, Idolmite said: No. And I was on Wolverine. Interesting assessment in more ways than one it cost Wolverine its chance to win with contact, surely theres the tech out there to translate how fast each horse was travelling at point of interference. I didnt have a bet but I'm sure if mulebacker did he'd have a far better case here... mavern belle was running out under pressure ,Wolverine had its momentum stopped 65m from the post at the end of a race. Not flash Memphis3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted April 3, 2022 agree gruff but I do think she had peaked on her run and it was very close to the line...tough call either way I would have thought as arguments for both but I do think the result was fair. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
say no more 2,630 Report post Posted April 3, 2022 Absolutely the right decision. Enough doubt that the second horse was going to get up without the interference so benefit of the doubt goes to the winner. Hard to overturn a Group 1 when the winner won by over a length. And not just my wallet speaking here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted April 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, scooby3051 said: agree gruff but I do think she had peaked on her run and it was very close to the line...tough call either way I would have thought as arguments for both but I do think the result was fair. Agree it was a tough call in that 2022 and we still rely on people in a room to decide something that needed to be decided on the track, that chance was taken from the Wolverine Camp . You interfere you shouldnt get any benefit of doubt close to 4 seconds from the finish Memphis3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis3 1,222 Report post Posted April 3, 2022 Watching the race I thought this Wolverine is going to win here. Then I thought she had cost herself by ducking in. Head on showed that MB caused the interference. Wind taken completely out of the runner ups sails. No wonder it looked like she peaked. No interference it would have been very close. JMHO scooby3051, We're Doomed and Hedley Jordan 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted April 3, 2022 35 minutes ago, Memphis3 said: Watching the race I thought this Wolverine is going to win here. Then I thought she had cost herself by ducking in. Head on showed that MB caused the interference. Wind taken completely out of the runner ups sails. No wonder it looked like she peaked. No interference it would have been very close. JMHO Yes. You cannot say categorically Mavern was going to win surely,but with the rules of racing the protestor needs to prove their case beyond doubt, nigh on impossible watching two angles on a video ( where's the flemington birdseye view ?)if we knew how fast each horse was travelling when Wolverine was stopped (head on shows an overlap) then we wouldnt need to involve people in a room who get it wrong 3 times in 10. The previous 65 metres looks to put ¹¹this margin inside a neck and MB was running out under pressure while Wolverine maintained its line..but hey it's just an observation Memphis3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,824 Report post Posted April 3, 2022 I must admit, watching the race I thought Woverine was going to get there. I think the length margin was probably the deciding factor in the end. So if you are going to interfer with something do it properly so there is a decent enough margin to create doubt. Talk1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter R S 408 Report post Posted April 3, 2022 This post was about the riding skills of N Parmar! Scooby, maybe he would have got On The Bubbles home in both its last 2 races, (tongue firmly in cheek)! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, We're Doomed said: I must admit, watching the race I thought Woverine was going to get there. I think the length margin was probably the deciding factor in the end. So if you are going to interfer with something do it properly so there is a decent enough margin to create doubt. Niranjan was brilliant Very true Doomy but as u say the interference at least cost it that margin, but that never seems to factor into the argument .What if Wolverine fell or lost its rider? Similar to the incident with Sarah mcnab on Scotch, that horse not only lost its chance to win but missed out on a certain placing. What happened there Fair go Memphis3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Peter R S said: This post was about the riding skills of N Parmar! Scooby, maybe he would have got On The Bubbles home in both its last 2 races, (tongue firmly in cheek)! Haha...not even the hulk could have carried him to get 2000M Lol...but they have had a ton of fun with him a bloody handy horse...some friends of mine are in him and have had some good nights out thanks to him LOL.... Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...