Iraklis 2,203 Report post Posted February 13, 2022 Hey guys did ya see a nice price paid for one of Lazzes babies $220,00 from Dreaming Spires, named What About Me, shall be watchin out for this one to get started.... Cheers Iraklis Thejanitor 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,085 Report post Posted February 13, 2022 By comparison a Laz filly , lot 2, barely attracted a bid. Nice pedigree as well. Finally sold for $20K. What interests me Iraklis, is that the millions last night saw only 8 pacing fillies and 3 male trotters line up out of hundreds of yearlings sold. Perhaps the big number buyers don't neccessarily have the best judgement. One would expect they'd all have an eye on the big early money. Just an observation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelli 426 Report post Posted February 13, 2022 Thought prices held up pretty well all things considering (some passed in lots already sold) but trotting vendors probably disappointed with 11/23 passed in. Iraklis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsvman 294 Report post Posted February 13, 2022 Was a good sales with a very good average but compared to the average stakes the horses will race for probably abit over priced for 90% of them JTeaz, john legend, JJ Flash and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,203 Report post Posted February 13, 2022 Yeh I saw that Blue, was just impressed that the colt fetched that much and who purchased him, guys doubt they'd be payin that much if he wasn't expected to race, I hope to be seein him anyway.....will be glued to TV for ChCh sales be interestin to see how Lazzes babies sell down there Cheers Iraklis Thejanitor 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,085 Report post Posted February 14, 2022 Well, for all the talk about the promotion and interest in squaregaiters I thought Christchurch today was abysmal. Poor setup, horses didn't want to enter the ring in lots of cases and the whole thing went in fits and starts apart from lack of interest. Not sure where the big buyers were. JJ Flash and Keneperu 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,203 Report post Posted February 14, 2022 Watched the after sale interview by Mark with the guy from the sales, even he said it was a 'sticky start to the sales' presumably tomorrow will be a 'bettor' affair but TonyH and BarryP were active there..... Cheers Iraklis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,085 Report post Posted February 14, 2022 Top price lot to Barry, Tony bought two for $18K and $35K but I'd hardly call that active. Maybe it's to do with the empty pavilion. The momentum never seems to move to any great heights. When everything is started at $5K by the auctioneer it's a fair indication of the interest. Keneperu 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,203 Report post Posted February 14, 2022 Well Blue, they were there and buyin I'd call that active! what would you call it? tomorrows another day..... Cheers Iraklis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelli 426 Report post Posted February 14, 2022 I feel for trotting vendors, having been there myself. Based on returns for last 5 years, 26% of NZ standardbred foals are trotters and it costs much the same to breed and get a trotting or pacing yearling to the sales. But for a number of reasons the chances of making a quick return on a sales purchase are currently heavily weighted towards the pacers. For example in the long 2021 season, only 3 trotting 2yos earned more than $40k (cf 20 pacers). While the odds improve a bit as 3yos and 4yos, this lack of early earning power inevitably influences buyers. But the good news for the fans of trotters is that if you hang in there till your horse is at least a 5yo the odds change in your favour: in the 2021 5yo+ cohort, 48 trotters earned over $40k compared to just 31 pacers. While it is good to have new funding for young trotters, IMO the addition of the $100k 2yo fillies Jewels race won't help, especially as at this age, sex makes little difference in capability as records show. I suggest splitting that funding over 5 $20k "Jewels prelude" races (including a couple up North). Having 5 garanteed good money races around the country would provide incentive to have young trotters in work, gaining race experience and of course, earning money. Stables 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,203 Report post Posted February 16, 2022 And that's the sales 2022 done dusted, Lazzes stock held up pretty good for first season sire can't wait to see em run.... Cheers Iraklis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,711 Report post Posted February 16, 2022 Don't over-rate them Iraklis - as you know whether you like them, or their father, or whatever, it is on the track when the truth will be known. But sure, I hope they perform - his career as a sire rests on it. Iraklis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,203 Report post Posted February 16, 2022 For sure Eljay for sure, but it's nice to have summit to look forward to and I can't wait..... Cheers Iraklis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,711 Report post Posted February 17, 2022 I note Casey never bought any Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,203 Report post Posted February 17, 2022 Oh Eljay, I thort he did, bugger I'll have to have another nosey at results.....yep he did mate, only the one at ChCh: Cheers Iraklis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee270744 682 Report post Posted February 17, 2022 I think Eljay meant by Lazarus. Iraklis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,203 Report post Posted February 17, 2022 Oh right, when I first read post I took it literally wasn't til after I posted, I realised he probably meant by Lazzie, too late was already few gins by then, figgered someone would say.... lol Cheers Iraklis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,711 Report post Posted February 17, 2022 14 hours ago, Iraklis said: Oh Eljay, I thort he did, bugger I'll have to have another nosey at results.....yep he did mate, only the one at ChCh: Cheers Iraklis I meant a Lazarus tasman man 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 742 Report post Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, eljay said: I meant a Lazarus There were only a big handful by Lazarus at the Sale....10 or less. Plus Trev obviously breeds a lot of horses himself.........he seems to have a lot of very good trotting mares and also working hard to give the Sky Majors a chance as pacers. Stonewall were obviously the big contributors to buying bench,and should be big players in upcoming years. They certainly putting in ,so all the best to them. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,203 Report post Posted February 17, 2022 Yeh Eljay mate, got that already Cheers Iraklis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamour 663 Report post Posted February 17, 2022 2 hours ago, tasman man said: There were only a big handful by Lazarus at the Sale....10 or less. Plus Trev obviously breeds a lot of horses himself.........he seems to have a lot of very good trotting mares and also working hard to give the Sky Majors a chance as pacers. Stonewall were obviously the big contributors to buying bench,and should be big players in upcoming years. They certainly putting in ,so all the best to them. Probably got more than a few that would have ended up at Allstars otherwise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...