JJ Flash 2,135 Report post Posted November 21, 2021 Race abandoned, starts just plain horrible and a horse wins after recent Methven disq. If you followed Dunn stable you got burnt big time with their 2 hotpots running midfield. Thejanitor 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 742 Report post Posted November 21, 2021 2 hours ago, JJ Flash said: Race abandoned, starts just plain horrible and a horse wins after recent Methven disq. If you followed Dunn stable you got burnt big time with their 2 hotpots running midfield. Can you explain why race abandoned ? I only watched one race , then at night checked the result for dividends etc and noticed the horse I interested in got promoted from third to second ! Didn't notice much in race ...maybe wrong start position or inside markers if there are markers. i guess I could check the Stewards report ...if posted ! But grass racing is, in the main , for the slugs and plodders....grass tends to be a great leveller. Obviously from comments online , followers love the day out ,the bigger fields and the greater uncertainty that the unexpected may happen. Some claim its more exciting than the main grit tracks but you see less horse as the horses are a mile away before ,during and after the race ! I guess its the country air, the picnic feeling and an excuse to skip Church which gives the feelgood factor....betting on the SUNDAY grass tracks only matched or beaten by Cup days or the combined North/ South Friday night harness slot ! JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navitas 108 Report post Posted November 21, 2021 Didn't see the race. Here is how the stipes saw it; Race 7 PAUL RENWICK JOINERY (JUNIOR DRIVERS) MOBILE PACE DENNIS DENUTO - raced wide early stages. FRANKIE JONES - raced wide early stages. CALYPSO ROCK - raced wide early stages. SKIDADDLE and DENNIS DENUTO locked wheels near the 1400 metres resulting in driver B Hope (SKIDADDLE) being dislodged from his sulky with SKIDADDLE escaping driverless with a number of runners being checked to varying degrees. Due to the driverless horse disorganising the field and with safety concerns for all other horses and drivers, Stewards stopped the race in accordance with Rule 211A(1). However due to the horses having raced more than 1000 metres without being able to be stopped Stewards determined the race be abandoned. Driver B Hope was examined by St John Paramedics and was cleared to fulfill his remaining driving engagements. Stewards were unable to apportion blame to any one horse or driver in relation to SKIDADDLE and DENNIS DENUTO locking wheels and took the matter no further. JJ Flash and jack 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thejanitor 1,219 Report post Posted November 21, 2021 4 hours ago, JJ Flash said: Race abandoned, starts just plain horrible and a horse wins after recent Methven disq. If you followed Dunn stable you got burnt big time with their 2 hotpots running midfield. I don't bet at Motukarara. Terrible track, diabolical crossing and poor fields. Punters' graveyard. jack and JJ Flash 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,135 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 I might add Timaru on Saturday not much better from the races i saw. Pretty sure that Tabcorp did not even run any markets on them . Yet the guru's at HRNZ are wanting to encourage more export income. Saturday afternoon racing from NZ is certainly not the answer as they have scores of local content to provide markets for and cover on TV Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,135 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 3 hours ago, tasman man said: I only watched one race , then at night checked the result for dividends etc and noticed the horse I interested in got promoted from third to second ! KENNEDY - held up early stages of the run home. Stewards lodged a protest against 2nd placing being awarded to the gelding alleging the horse gained an advantage by improving its position in the passing lane in the early stages. After viewing the replays and hearing evidence from Stewards, Mr DeFilippi and co-owner P Cook, the Adjudicative Committee upheld the Protest and disqualified KENNEDY from 2nd placing. Driver C DeFilippi defended an associated charge alleging he had driven improperly in the early stages by improving his position in the passing lane. After viewing the replays and hearing the evidence from Stewards and Mr DeFilippi, the Adjudicative Committee upheld the charge and suspended Mr DeFilippi's drivers licence from the conclusion of racing today up to and including 8th December 2021 (6 days) tasman man 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 742 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Thejanitor said: I don't bet at Motukarara. Terrible track, diabolical crossing and poor fields. Punters' graveyard. Probably correct.......but the fact remains that grass track meetings on a Sunday are preferred by many participants ,especially of the slower battling type of horse AND the overall punter/enthusiast who seems to have more time to spare and bet on a Sunday. Also more export betting which doesn't always happen on a Saturday . Plus Motukarara hosts one of the the best attended meetings of the year between Xmas and New Year. Navitas and JJ Flash 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJESTIC 182 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, tasman man said: Plus Motukarara hosts one of the the best attended meetings of the year between Xmas and New Year. Not this year. Doesn't Covid stuff that !!!! Thejanitor 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 742 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, MAJESTIC said: Not this year. Doesn't Covid stuff that !!!! I guess it will depend on the rules which come with the 'Traffic Light' living conditions. Travel between regions being lifted between December 15 and January 17 at this stage ,and I assume folk will be crowding holiday spots ,music festivals etc [ if you are double jabbed !!! ] As its outdoor entertainment I presume racing will be allowed to operate with on-course patrons , at least over that period and/or until the rules change again . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thejanitor 1,219 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 3 hours ago, JJ Flash said: I might add Timaru on Saturday not much better from the races i saw. Pretty sure that Tabcorp did not even run any markets on them . Yet the guru's at HRNZ are wanting to encourage more export income. Saturday afternoon racing from NZ is certainly not the answer as they have scores of local content to provide markets for and cover on TV I backed Buckskin so very happy with Phar Lap Raceway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thejanitor 1,219 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, MAJESTIC said: Not this year. Doesn't Covid stuff that !!!! Yes, it does, but that doesn't mean it is good! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,719 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 Anything better than they have left us with in the North. No picnic days, no family days, just all weather tracks where 3/4 of the track is obliterated by hoardings, big screens etc. Met most of my harness friends/acquaintances through the grass track daytime meetings. Navitas 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,135 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Thejanitor said: I backed Buckskin so very happy with Phar Lap Raceway. Well done you Thejanitor 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Piper 408 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 Didnt see the race, at what stage was it abandoned ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Piper 408 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Thejanitor said: I don't bet at Motukarara. Terrible track, diabolical crossing and poor fields. Punters' graveyard. What are your requirements re. Poor fields ? Every horse starts out as a maiden and you never really know where they end up and when things click in their minds. Surveys says only approx. 5% make money which means about 8 to 10 of them are any good really. Just enough to make up one race. Don't think harness racing would survive on 1 race a day. Let's be enthusiastic about harness racing at grassroots. Thejanitor 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikecity 749 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 7 hours ago, 2Piper said: Didnt see the race, at what stage was it abandoned ? Just my take on it, but I don't think it was abandoned until after the race was over. Terrible look and all drivers should have been fined. Unless you are told the race is abandoned the drivers should have continued. Yes it was junior drivers and most didn't know what they should be doing. some were pulling up and some were continuing. It isn't the drivers call to decide wether or not the race should continue. Felt sorry for the connections of the winner having to come all the way from southland to face that abortion of a race. dkc, JJ Flash, john legend and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Spyro 408 Report post Posted November 23, 2021 Was only race I would have collected in all day. Backed winner and 2nd horse and ............. You know your luck is bad when that happens. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga 194 Report post Posted November 24, 2021 The race wasn't abandoned or stopped. Most of the drivers continued to race and did so to the line - only the commentator seemed to think the race was called off .... the clerk of the course didn't try to stop it - the stipes called it a "no race" after the event. Like the title of this thread said, it was a shambles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,719 Report post Posted November 24, 2021 They copying the politicians???? Iraklis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...