Blossom Lady 67 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 With the borders not due to open until the 15th December , that spells doom for the very popular Twilight meeting at Ellerslie on the 9th. Also, Boxing Day and New Year's Day races at Ellerslie will be run behind closed doors ...... how sad!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 742 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 23 minutes ago, Blossom Lady said: With the borders not due to open until the 15th December , that spells doom for the very popular Twilight meeting at Ellerslie on the 9th. Also, Boxing Day and New Year's Day races at Ellerslie will be run behind closed doors ...... how sad!!!! Is this 'official' or an educated guess ? With the traffic light system protocols changing and many being undecided there surely may be some entry of members and public permitted. Its an outdoor event with plenty of social distancing for allowed bubbles to be catered for. I'd suggest some effort will be made by Club to cater for some spectators ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,763 Report post Posted November 19, 2021 Why should it be closed off ? If vaccination levels reach 90% before Christmas there should be no problem for those with vax proof. This bloody mob make it up as they go, Ardern hasn’t a clue..and couldn’t care less about racing. Baz (NZ) and Black Kirrama 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseacol 2,488 Report post Posted November 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Ohokaman said: Why should it be closed off ? If vaccination levels reach 90% before Christmas there should be no problem for those with vax proof. This bloody mob make it up as they go, Ardern hasn’t a clue..and couldn’t care less about racing. someone buy Neve a pony for gods sake ... Ned Kelly, Pegasus 9, shaneMcAlister and 4 others 2 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stodge 1,912 Report post Posted November 19, 2021 19 hours ago, Ohokaman said: Why should it be closed off ? If vaccination levels reach 90% before Christmas there should be no problem for those with vax proof. This bloody mob make it up as they go, Ardern hasn’t a clue..and couldn’t care less about racing. Would Judith Collins and National be doing any better? There's little or no evidence I can see they would do anything any differently - they'd be getting the same scientific advice from the same people, wouldn't they? Memphis3, mckenzie, drewandjo and 1 other 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,763 Report post Posted November 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, stodge said: Would Judith Collins and National be doing any better? There's little or no evidence I can see they would do anything any differently - they'd be getting the same scientific advice from the same people, wouldn't they? Wouldn’t be difficult Stodge, Arderns containment/eradication strategy was frankly never going to work with an airborne virus. And some of that “scientific advice “ has been coming from some dubious sources. The initial modelling was bullshit to scare people. We need to open the place up , and get back to something like normal life and get businesses moving again. The economic fallout has been huge. The virus is out there in most parts of the country with cases increasing daily. Containing it has been a failure, so you have the choice...get vaccinated and get on with it, or don’t and take your chances. National vaccination rates are getting to that 90% mark so lockdowns will not be needed or wanted, and the borders need re opening ( not until next year ) to revive the Tourism industry. Once International travellers start arriving again, we’ll see what happens then. Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted November 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Ohokaman said: Wouldn’t be difficult Stodge, Arderns containment/eradication strategy was frankly never going to work with an airborne virus. And some of that “scientific advice “ has been coming from some dubious sources. The initial modelling was bullshit to scare people. We need to open the place up , and get back to something like normal life and get businesses moving again. The economic fallout has been huge. The virus is out there in most parts of the country with cases increasing daily. Containing it has been a failure, so you have the choice...get vaccinated and get on with it, or don’t and take your chances. National vaccination rates are getting to that 90% mark so lockdowns will not be needed or wanted, and the borders need re opening ( not until next year ) to revive the Tourism industry. Once International travellers start arriving again, we’ll see what happens then. The same thing will happen as everywhere else Delta will run rampant just look at Europe..its everywhere and out of control...and you want that here...you must be nuts. ivanthegreat, Ohokaman, Memphis3 and 2 others 2 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pole 53 Report post Posted November 20, 2021 On 11/19/2021 at 11:59 AM, Blossom Lady said: With the borders not due to open until the 15th December , that spells doom for the very popular Twilight meeting at Ellerslie on the 9th. Also, Boxing Day and New Year's Day races at Ellerslie will be run behind closed doors ...... how sad!!!! Why do we race horses in n.z? Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poundforpound 745 Report post Posted November 20, 2021 I get the daily data Read it for yourself The health system is not under pressure The daily infections are dropping below the seven day rolling average Only five people are in ICU Only two fully vaccinated people are in hospital The criteria for a red traffic light is NOT being met…..this is NOT a crisis as the media is describing it This data doesn’t lie ivanthegreat, drewandjo, scoobysnacks and 2 others 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,763 Report post Posted November 21, 2021 On 11/20/2021 at 2:57 PM, scooby3051 said: The same thing will happen as everywhere else Delta will run rampant just look at Europe..its everywhere and out of control...and you want that here...you must be nuts. You are not a business owner obviously….the virus is out there, just get on with it. https://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=343918&fm=newsarticle+-+Sports%2cnrhl Watching the Irish test was interesting…..60% vaccination rate there and 50,000+ in the Stadium……living life as they should…. scoobysnacks, Baz (NZ) and Goodison 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,420 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 Not sure 60% is correct. Ireland is one of highest vacinated populations. 75.5% of their population fully vaxd. NZ is 68.9% of total population. Don't get me wrong though, I am over all this shit and just want to get on with normality. Memphis3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukkledragga 229 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 58 minutes ago, shaneMcAlister said: Not sure 60% is correct. Ireland is one of highest vacinated populations. 75.5% of their population fully vaxd. NZ is 68.9% of total population. Don't get me wrong though, I am over all this shit and just want to get on with normality. A few of those countries in the wake of waning immunity are facing a fresh wave of infections.Having fired off all their shots,blown all their loads ,now they have to deal with PREMATURE INNOCULATION. What sort of limp response will they,and then us come up with in the future? Ned Kelly, Shad, dock leaf and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Ohokaman said: You are not a business owner obviously….the virus is out there, just get on with it. https://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=343918&fm=newsarticle+-+Sports%2cnrhl Watching the Irish test was interesting…..60% vaccination rate there and 50,000+ in the Stadium……living life as they should…. And do you have pre existing conditions that if you get it then it will almost certainly kill you??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,763 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 52 minutes ago, scooby3051 said: And do you have pre existing conditions that if you get it then it will almost certainly kill you??? 52 minutes ago, scooby3051 said: And do you have pre existing conditions that if you get it then it will almost certainly kill you??? Outside the chemo time line now and double jabbed so as good as it gets… 205 cases today right through the country…..It ain’t going away anytime soon and will probably mutate again down the track. We need to get things back to normal……if you don’t get vaccinated you take your chances as many no doubt will. Pam Robson, dock leaf and arjay 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 Vaccines are not 100% protection...many still die after getting vaxxed although it is much lower ...for a few months anyway. arjay and dock leaf 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poundforpound 745 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 Could I please ask the uneducated to do two things 1. check the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine and it’s booster shots …..nearly 90% protection against hospitalization and death 2. check the efficacy of the new protease inhibitor Paxlovid …..90% protection against hospitalization and death if you’re vaccinated but get infected Let me do the math for you ….if 10% are at risk after being vaccinated …… and Paxlovid protects 90% of the 10% that leaves 1% vulnerable ……..1 fucking percent …….now instead of resisting the overwhelming science how about you just focus on learning to do your shoe laces up JJ Flash, bestbets, Pam Robson and 6 others 6 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 Is Paxlovid available here yet??/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,010 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, scooby3051 said: Is Paxlovid available here yet??/ No. Not anywhere as far as I know. I think P4P has shares in Pfizer. Also sounds like he has a premature innoculation problem. Baz (NZ) and Insider 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhei Notts 1,403 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 Leggy, I have been a contributor to this blog for quite a few years. I am trying to scrape my memory processes. At the moment I think your post above might possibly qualify as the worst I have seen on this blog. And then I thought, Leggy, your time might be better spent, over in the corner of the room, fellating your boyfriend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,010 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Tauhei Notts said: Leggy, I have been a contributor to this blog for quite a few years. I am trying to scrape my memory processes. At the moment I think your post above might possibly qualify as the worst I have seen on this blog. And then I thought, Leggy, your time might be better spent, over in the corner of the room, fellating your boyfriend. If that's the case Tauhei, then I think you have gone one better. I'm curious though exactly what you find so objectionable about my post? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerula 1,389 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 Asked a doctor whether the magic med was here and he said no not yet. He said if you get the covid there is a sweet spot where it works best and it isnt in the end stage time. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poundforpound 745 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 59 minutes ago, Nerula said: Asked a doctor whether the magic med was here and he said no not yet. He said if you get the covid there is a sweet spot where it works best and it isnt in the end stage time. Yes, that’s a critical factor, at the 2-5 days stage Protease inhibitors have been around a while though, they’re largely credited with solving the global AIDS and Hepatitis C problems, and this particular version of protease inhibitor dates back to 2003 and the SARS epidemic ( another coronavirus ) JJ Flash, bestbets, arjay and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stodge 1,912 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 15 hours ago, poundforpound said: Could I please ask the uneducated to do two things 1. check the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine and it’s booster shots …..nearly 90% protection against hospitalization and death 2. check the efficacy of the new protease inhibitor Paxlovid …..90% protection against hospitalization and death if you’re vaccinated but get infected Let me do the math for you ….if 10% are at risk after being vaccinated …… and Paxlovid protects 90% of the 10% that leaves 1% vulnerable ……..1 fucking percent …….now instead of resisting the overwhelming science how about you just focus on learning to do your shoe laces up Over here, 15 million have had their third or booster dose. Mrs Stodge and I are getting ours at the weekend. And yet - case numbers (or more accurately reported positive tests) are still rising at nearly 45,000 in the past 24 hours. However, deaths are falling as are hospitalisations and the evidence is those requiring hospital treatment are overwhelmingly the unvaccinated while those who are doubly vaccinated but catching the virus seem to be getting it in a much milder form. There are little or no restrictions and no sign of any return at this time. Trying to eliminate the virus is futile - vaccinations are the way forward as is learning to live with it. As the German health minister said today (presumably in German) "everyone in Germany will be vaccinated, recovered or dead" which, while blunt, has the virtue of being the truth. bestbets 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerula 1,389 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 9 hours ago, poundforpound said: Yes, that’s a critical factor, at the 2-5 days stage Protease inhibitors have been around a while though, they’re largely credited with solving the global AIDS and Hepatitis C problems, and this particular version of protease inhibitor dates back to 2003 and the SARS epidemic ( another coronavirus ) Right so if you show a symptom go straight to the doctor and get him to send you for a test. Then if result positive he/she will put you on the med in the sweet spot. If it is here.? Why is it the clown show MOH is always behind the 8 ball? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poundforpound 745 Report post Posted November 22, 2021 51 minutes ago, Nerula said: Right so if you show a symptom go straight to the doctor and get him to send you for a test. Then if result positive he/she will put you on the med in the sweet spot. If it is here.? Why is it the clown show MOH is always behind the 8 ball? I just spoke to Rod Jackson and he’s referred me to Pharmac ….but Chris Bishop is adamant the government hasn’t ordered it…..this is bizarre and negligence arjay and JJ Flash 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...