barryb 2,064 Report post Posted July 27, 2021 My daughters 19yr old boyfriend (whom opened a TAB account 3 months ago) has only got into racing since hanging around me, had an interesting experience today with the TAB. He's a $5 win punter, hasn't made a withdrawal, lost about $300, regularly topped up his account, today he phones me to say that he is getting stranges things on his TAB account in that his $5 win bets are coming up with max $3.05 or $1.02, $2.85 etc when he goes to submit them. I tell him to phone and see what the problem might be, well after a lengthy waiting delay they come back to him & advise that the Risk Managers have placed a restriction on your account. Yes he bets some of my selections (Many of mine are placed overseas due to restrictions), but plenty of his own also, today he is totally devastated that he now has next to zero chance of winning back the $300 he has lost. He doesn't have Credit Cards etc so overseas is off limits to him. We are talking a 19yr old, just starting out with racing, potential to bring in plenty of other young mates, $5 bets & his account in $300 negative territory. Is this how we want our TAB organisation treating young guys getting started?. The future of NZ Racing is very grim if they cannot handle $5 punters whom are losing. He has the day off work & was at me to take him along to Cambridge today to see the $40k racing there, his interest now is near zero, almost certainly another one lost to other activities. Baz (NZ), Huey, Aaron Bidlake and 6 others 1 2 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimbo 734 Report post Posted July 28, 2021 Don't give her next boyfriend your wifi password so it doesn't happen again. Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb 2,064 Report post Posted July 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, Bimbo said: Don't give her next boyfriend your wifi password so it doesn't happen again. Yes pretty much it isnt it. What a shit sad state of affairs this is, just imagine if BGP had been treated like this a couple or so yrs back, the industry & the TAB both would not be the richer for it. I also note that as of yet he still hasn't had an email reply to the question as to why. Customer service, ha whats that. Isn't it time the TAB was legislated to offer bets to a certain winning value like the Aussies are? Instead of treating people like wastage when the industry is under extreme pressure like it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike28 182 Report post Posted July 28, 2021 that truly is pathetic they should be more worried about there own risk management eating sausage rolls, pies and hot chips at lunch time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meomy 971 Report post Posted July 28, 2021 @barrybCount your blessings, and his he doesn't have a Credit Card, or perhaps a Debit Card. Too many young ones get them and get into endless debt. Bring back TAB's in local shopping centres -there's plenty of empty shops so no excuse for the TAB to not be looking to secure a reasonably priced lease, or purchase, suitable prominent sites with good parking and accessibility to lure the wider community back into Racing. It's an opportune time for them to get out there and market racing in all aspects. Maybe it's timely the TAB looked at the way they promote themselves as only 18 plus to bet and have Educational aspect promotions material for younger r interested people to join the industry within the TABs themselves. Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,790 Report post Posted July 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Bimbo said: Don't give her next boyfriend your wifi password so it doesn't happen again. He Dropped $300 so definately time to cut him loose Its a good thing the TAB screwed him definately save him Plenty longterm Cubes and ivanthegreat 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickopunter 403 Report post Posted August 3, 2021 On 7/28/2021 at 11:40 AM, barryb said: My daughters 19yr old boyfriend (whom opened a TAB account 3 months ago) has only got into racing since hanging around me, had an interesting experience today with the TAB. He's a $5 win punter, hasn't made a withdrawal, lost about $300, regularly topped up his account, today he phones me to say that he is getting stranges things on his TAB account in that his $5 win bets are coming up with max $3.05 or $1.02, $2.85 etc when he goes to submit them. I tell him to phone and see what the problem might be, well after a lengthy waiting delay they come back to him & advise that the Risk Managers have placed a restriction on your account. Yes he bets some of my selections (Many of mine are placed overseas due to restrictions), but plenty of his own also, today he is totally devastated that he now has next to zero chance of winning back the $300 he has lost. He doesn't have Credit Cards etc so overseas is off limits to him. We are talking a 19yr old, just starting out with racing, potential to bring in plenty of other young mates, $5 bets & his account in $300 negative territory. Is this how we want our TAB organisation treating young guys getting started?. The future of NZ Racing is very grim if they cannot handle $5 punters whom are losing. He has the day off work & was at me to take him along to Cambridge today to see the $40k racing there, his interest now is near zero, almost certainly another one lost to other activities. If you're heavily restricted and he's using your wifi? Could that be it? Im not saying its ok but could be the reason.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterEd 328 Report post Posted August 3, 2021 On 7/28/2021 at 6:31 PM, Bimbo said: Don't give her next boyfriend your wifi password so it doesn't happen again. Bookies are sneaky and take full advantage of technology so your I.P addresses will be logged and matched against other accounts. If you are restricted and or your account is on the watch list any other accounts betting from known IP addresses you have used will be flagged as well. Restricting to low amounts has the effect of you taking your business elsewhere without having to outright ban the account. The NZ TAB since utilizing the openbet platform is also utilizing the UK handbook of risk management as these tactics are identical to what came in overseas several years ago. Although annoying it either forces you to move elsewhere or become sneaky yourself in the way you manage your betting and how you place your bets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 1 1,386 Report post Posted August 3, 2021 Yep I was only allowed to put the grand total of $28 to win on a $8 horse last night for Cambridge today.! I played their game and they immediately dropped the odds to $6.50! Big tech are being sued ATM for colluding with the govt and censoring free speech. This govt department is bordering on litigation....fair trading act? Am I now an unpaid oddsetter? $28 should not alter the odds....victimization Cubes 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickopunter 403 Report post Posted August 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, 100 1 said: Yep I was only allowed to put the grand total of $28 to win on a $8 horse last night for Cambridge today.! I played their game and they immediately dropped the odds to $6.50! Big tech are being sued ATM for colluding with the govt and censoring free speech. This govt department is bordering on litigation....fair trading act? Am I now an unpaid oddsetter? $28 should not alter the odds....victimization Join the ever growing club. I literally closed my account on principle. Of course no-one cared. 100 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,855 Report post Posted August 3, 2021 Surely the bigger worry here is that the poor kid follows Barry's selections and hasn't had a withdrawal and is $300 down. JJ Flash and Kloppite 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickopunter 403 Report post Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, We're Doomed said: Surely the bigger worry here is that the poor kid follows Barry's selections and hasn't had a withdrawal and is $300 down. He probably got out light losing 300. But not the point. JJ Flash, We're Doomed and Gruff 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,135 Report post Posted August 4, 2021 So how is that they will make a record distribution to the codes this season of 170 mio. Seems plenty must be utilising their offerings to be able to do that.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob 92 Report post Posted August 4, 2021 The TAB are well behind the 8 ball Setup a Betfair account I was able to bet on Lisa Carrington Live with her gold Medal wins, in which the TAB did not even have the option available Gruff and Memphis3 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickopunter 403 Report post Posted August 4, 2021 20 hours ago, JJ Flash said: So how is that they will make a record distribution to the codes this season of 170 mio. Seems plenty must be utilising their offerings to be able to do that.. Is that a defence of the TAB? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,135 Report post Posted August 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Sickopunter said: Is that a defence of the TAB? No- its a fact Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_gee 416 Report post Posted August 5, 2021 and yet barry we hear all the time they want attract new customers I learnt years ago take my betting off shore , tab should never control this crap Cubes and Memphis3 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis3 1,261 Report post Posted August 5, 2021 5 hours ago, mr_gee said: and yet barry we hear all the time they want attract new customers I learnt years ago take my betting off shore , tab should never control this crap Are you following your namesake in Sydney Mr Gee. Going well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz (NZ) 1,722 Report post Posted August 6, 2021 BarryB,. Bernard Saundry was going to look into this for you... if all the information surrounding this restriction could be emailed to him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbets 206 Report post Posted August 7, 2021 I experienced a restriction of the amount I could bet on a horse when the market open. Wanted 100 ew on very flash at 26 an 6.8 reply was I could only have half the amount. What I did was put 50 ew then did the bet again an got my 100 ew no problem.the sites a dog. The other problem I have I start selecting my quad an get the first leg selection then the page refreshes an I haven't noticed an go to 2nd leg an I'm making individual bets as the site has gone away from my quad bet. They surely could of got better value for there millions they spent. Baz (NZ) and Gruff 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...