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22 minutes ago, Berri said:

Obviously the data doesn't come from New Zealand because we simply don't have any race courses that can take more that 20 horses, let alone 24. Three 8 horse races will produce less betting than three 24 horse fields. Three 24 horse fields that are distance racing produces more betting that three 24 horse sprint fields.

 

Of course 72 runners in 3 events will produce more revenue than 24 horses in 3 events. But you are not listening or comparing apples with apples. If you have 24 potential runners, where is the data from anywhere that suggests 1 24 horse race for them will produce more revenue than 3 8 horse events. I don't think it exists. If you are not dreaming as it seems, then post the data that indicates that.

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58 minutes ago, Berri said:

Obviously the data doesn't come from New Zealand because we simply don't have any race courses that can take more that 20 horses, let alone 24. Three 8 horse races will produce less betting than three 24 horse fields. Three 24 horse fields that are distance racing produces more betting that three 24 horse sprint fields.

In New Zealand 3 18 horse fields produces more betting than three 14 horse fields and when they are distance races the pattern fits as previously described. So why would you even consider limiting the potential race field numbers to 14, and just as importantly, why would you ensure that you couldn't start a race at the 2400m mark?

I think you blokes don't get the math's, human behavior and the data.  Horse numbers are obviously a serious issue in NZ. I've just been going through the stallion book of 1980 and compared everything with 1993. You want to see the degradation of an industry you just need to read those two books. When Hogan, O'Sullivan and I made our infamous presentation to the RIB in 1993, we debated for days whether we should shock the RIB that we though the foal crop might dip below 5,000. Hogan said go hard, make it 4,000. Now look at it!

 

I can only speak for myself when I say I would prefer 14  over 24 every day of the week,why would I bet on a race where my chances of winning are lessened by a bigger field,some tracks have obvious biases and I am discouraged by cambridge being fair to all runners,I want it to be as easy as possible to WIN,that is the math that adds up in my book,some horses favour certain tracks and no doubt there will be new track specialists along with the new tracks just like the rest of world racing,some of the things being painted as negative by some can be a bigger postive for others,time will tell the tale

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No surprise to see a successful, and likely fiscally comfortable,  trainer singing the praises of synthetic tracks

Stemming the flow of owners selling/moving horses off-shore must be great for business?!

 

 

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On 7/25/2021 at 2:11 PM, MAJESTIC said:

Great to hear. One query, not negative. What happens to the jumping races at Riccarton in seasons to come, Grand National etc?

No answer from any of you learned colleagues out there. What is happening to jump races at Riccarton?

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2 hours ago, Leggy said:

Of course 72 runners in 3 events will produce more revenue than 24 horses in 3 events. But you are not listening or comparing apples with apples. If you have 24 potential runners, where is the data from anywhere that suggests 1 24 horse race for them will produce more revenue than 3 8 horse events. I don't think it exists. If you are not dreaming as it seems, then post the data that indicates that.

That will be done. Give me a couple of days. I’m going to be off line

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Ok you folk who fail to get the message about 24 horses in a race, When was the last time you watched The Melbourne Cup and how many horses are usually lined up to race in it???

The Auckland Cup also used to have 24 horses in it, as did other races.

It would be great to see more longer distance races with larger fields, especially going over the Knoll/ Hill at Ellerslie like they used to ride up there in the 1800's, yes that's 1800's when they used that part of the track because horses are animals that like to go up hills!!

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