chevy86 2,683 Report post Posted July 8, 2021 9 hours ago, Tauhei Notts said: The idiocy displayed by the extortionate fine placed on Shaun Phelan does absolutely nothing to enhance race relations in New Zealand in the near future. Indeed, it inflames racist attitudes. For that reason it is deplorable. 100% correct and applies to all the "isms". tasman man 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted July 8, 2021 12 hours ago, Tauhei Notts said: Baz, thank you for quoting the seemingly offensive comments word for word. I read the comments out to my wife. She was born in Greece and has been a bit pissed off with Kiwis who ask her ;How do they separate the men from the boys in Greece. The cryptic answer is,..."with crowbars". She had lived in Greece in the 1967-74 period when the grossly offensive fascist Papadopoulos regime, ably backed up by fleas such as Henry Kissinger, reigned supreme. A repugnant regime that sent the likes of Mikis Theodorakis into exile. She tells me that not even that contemptible regime would have been so harsh on somebody such as Shaun Phelan. She is becoming worried as two of our four grandchildren are of Ngati Kahunganui and Ngapuhi extraction. The idiocy displayed by the extortionate fine placed on Shaun Phelan does absolutely nothing to enhance race relations in New Zealand in the near future. Indeed, it inflames racist attitudes. For that reason it is deplorable. And, Red Rum; for so long I have enjoyed your informative and intelligent comments about European racing. Your knowledge is a thing of beauty. But in this instance you are barking up the wrong tree. Shaun Phelan himself agrees the comments he made were totally inappropriate on National TV , so he is at odds with those on here that say they were fine . Again , iam no woke warrior at all , I enjoy having the piss taken out of me , I enjoy taking the piss . But my point has always been in 2021 that cannot be said on National TV and not expect to get a sanction , all sports are the same , look at the crazy overreaction to that England cricketer the other week, then they tried to slur other guys inc a NZ cricketer for a tweet he made years back that were very mild imho . I hear Poms this and that loads , it's great , it's funny , and I really don't give a crap what is said to me and 99 per cent time it's a laugh and bit of back and forth with great mates , the other 1 per cent is even funnier , nothing funnier than people getting wound up , my phone will melt with txts if Italy win on Monday morning taking piss put of England but it it's not about individuals and my point is I feel racing was backed into a corner . Imagine it came out on news and they had ignored it , the action they took and Shaun's mature reation has imho taken the wind out the sails of the " woke warriors " . I actually reckon Shaun comes out of this looking like a thoroughly decent individual , we all make on mistakes for gods sake , the authorities had to act IMHO and hes copped it with grace , better that than they ignore it and then it's on news they swept it under carpet. Likewise TN , always enjoy your posts. Pam Robson, Ohokaman, Baz (NZ) and 1 other 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,763 Report post Posted July 8, 2021 31 minutes ago, Red Rum said: Shaun Phelan himself agrees the comments he made were totally inappropriate on National TV , so he is at odds with those on here that say they were fine . Again , iam no woke warrior at all , I enjoy having the piss taken out of me , I enjoy taking the piss . But my point has always been in 2021 that cannot be said on National TV and not expect to get a sanction , all sports are the same , look at the crazy overreaction to that England cricketer the other week, then they tried to slur other guys inc a NZ cricketer for a tweet he made years back that were very mild imho . I hear Poms this and that loads , it's great , it's funny , and I really don't give a crap what is said to me and 99 per cent time it's a laugh and bit of back and forth with great mates , the other 1 per cent is even funnier , nothing funnier than people getting wound up , my phone will melt with txts if Italy win on Monday morning taking piss put of England but it it's not about individuals and my point is I feel racing was backed into a corner . Imagine it came out on news and they had ignored it , the action they took and Shaun's mature reation has imho taken the wind out the sails of the " woke warriors " . I actually reckon Shaun comes out of this looking like a thoroughly decent individual , we all make on mistakes for gods sake , the authorities had to act IMHO and hes copped it with grace , better that than they ignore it and then it's on news they swept it under carpet. Likewise TN , always enjoy your posts. Just keep the laser pens in the pocket this time RR…..they are beginning to look desperate……and still couldn’t beat Scotland……. Red Rum 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted July 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: Just keep the laser pens in the pocket this time RR…..they are beginning to look desperate……and still couldn’t beat Scotland……. Now that is very bad and something that is totally out of order no debate on that one IMHO . He made a great effort and his recovery I've explained to couple young keepers last night and told them watch it a few times , that's why the keeper coach does the drills to get up and recover . They are tough drills but he almost got that rebound . Just couldnt parry it out to the sides .Father and Son both true professionals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted July 9, 2021 1 minute ago, poundforpound said: RR you’re such a dick Shaun Phelan expressed remorse to diminish the penalty …he’s genuine mate and he doesn’t give a flying fuck, and nor should he As I said, and I can prove it, the RIU who prosecuted Shaun employ known racists who describe residents of South Auckland as savages, and who claim you “should never trust a man you can blindfold with a shoelace” Help me understand the difference ? my view, one was funny .. the other is a disgrace Line one , totally agree , people say that to me a lot so must be true, I've would you believe had people call me far worse while trying to take a right good shot at me , all the fun of the fair P4P . I can only go on what Shaun is quoted as saying , what else can I go on . As I said a number of times , the other quotes you attribute to someone else would be a disgrace, at what point did I disagree with you on that . The blokes been fined, he's appears not to be appealing . Do people really say sorry and not mean it to mitigate a fine and or being sent down , blimey never seen that before but I learn something new everyday . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanthegreat 1,123 Report post Posted July 9, 2021 Ragamuffin and Chris Wood 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted July 9, 2021 Okay okay you guys win , I tap out . I am off to chain myself to the gates of some capitalist corporate greed company in my Citizen Smith uniform with my copies of socialist worker . Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Steel 1,259 Report post Posted July 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, Red Rum said: Okay okay you guys win , I tap out . I am off to chain myself to the gates of some capitalist corporate greed company in my Citizen Smith uniform with my copies of socialist worker . Don't worry to much mate. People comment all the time in ways derived as sexist or racist. Meanwhile Australia and New Zealand are leading the world with Star female jockeys this century , as the traditional BS slowly changes . (like Whip use , etc) BTW , great win by England if you're supporting them!!! (and Royal Ascot coverage we got was simply Magnificent, great to see the crowds back) best of luck against the Wogs in euro (oh dear can I say that ?? ) lol........ Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjay 447 Report post Posted July 9, 2021 You can drive with no Rego and no Wof and only be find $200.00 on each. Who ever fined this jock is a wanker with no sense. Aaron Bidlake, Gruff, We're Doomed and 2 others 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,540 Report post Posted July 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Red Rum said: Okay okay you guys win , I tap out . I am off to chain myself to the gates of some capitalist corporate greed company in my Citizen Smith uniform with my copies of socialist worker . It's a no win for anyone, good on you for voicing your own opinion, wether anyone agrees or not, that's what I thought the forum is all about. Pam Robson and Red Rum 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownboy 19 Report post Posted July 12, 2021 Red Rum woke labour voters don't cut the Mustard and definitely have no understanding of what racism is. Of the Brown decent I can tell you calling some one a black so and so is not racist. Referring to various names using black is not racist as when basketballer Steven Adams referred to Steph Currie as active as a monkey. They are all figures of speech. Actual racism is when you don't employ someone due to their color don't sit next to them on a bus. It amazes me how so many Europeans no all about racism but have probably never experienced it. If your white go to South Africa and get a first hand experience of it. Start in Johannesburg. The you will experience it. Nothing like being mugged because your white and will have cash. Otherwise leave the PC shit to the politicians, and focus on real issues Lee270744, chevy86 and Gruff 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...