stodge 1,940 Report post Posted June 1, 2021 Very interesting piece about UK prize money compared to other racing jurisdictions: https://www.racingpost.com/news/insight/prize-money-how-do-other-nations-fund-such-bigger-pots-than-britain/491643 It's worth some discussion I think and perhaps where NZ compares to other countries. This is the graphic that tells the story: soliloquy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerula 1,402 Report post Posted June 1, 2021 I presume the lower level of AUS and GB is due to Bookmakers siphon. In the US states such as Kentucky own the "product" pari mutual betting and stream to other states Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 876 Report post Posted June 1, 2021 with regard to (aus) i thought it might be all betfairs fault as a matter of interest how many metro races would a horse have to win yearly in NZ to cover its yearly training fees ( based on city training rates) ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,076 Report post Posted June 1, 2021 That graph is the percentage of total betting turnover that is done on racing. It doesn't necessarily reflect the relative return to racing does it? JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerula 1,402 Report post Posted June 2, 2021 4 hours ago, pogo(aus) said: with regard to (aus) i thought it might be all betfairs fault as a matter of interest how many metro races would a horse have to win yearly in NZ to cover its yearly training fees ( based on city training rates) ? Say at Ellerslie 3 wins in 22.5k races would cover it I reckon. Trainer 75 a day and agist 26 a day. then there are the expenses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 876 Report post Posted June 4, 2021 Say at Ellerslie 3 wins in 22.5k races would cover it I reckon a 22.5 k race ??? whats that ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disillusioned 389 Report post Posted June 4, 2021 43 minutes ago, pogo(aus) said: Say at Ellerslie 3 wins in 22.5k races would cover it I reckon a 22.5 k race ??? whats that ? There's two at Ellerslie today, Pogo. Hell, and one not even half that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 876 Report post Posted June 5, 2021 how would a potential owner be enticed to race a horse with that level of prizemoney ? 32,500 for an open hcp 125,000 in sydney/melb and its not 4 times more to race one here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattski 176 Report post Posted June 5, 2021 Interesting graph and article thanks. What % of betting is returned to racing in NZ?? Is this a reminder that we should retain ownership of the TAB? Thank, Matt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownboy 19 Report post Posted June 28, 2021 Why waste your time in NZ Brisbane races on Friday at Ipswich the stake moneys is between 20k and 30k which is the same as country Queensland meetings, and good regional trainers are 80 a day and its similar in regional Victoria. So why race here and if the horse is any good Metro racing Brisbane stakes are 50k to 80k a race outside of premier days. Unless the Stakes improve across the ditch is a better option Huey and We're Doomed 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,554 Report post Posted June 28, 2021 What's the average cost of flying a horse over to Australia Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stodge 1,940 Report post Posted June 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Shad said: What's the average cost of flying a horse over to Australia I wonder how it compares with flying horses from the UK to Ireland or France and vice versa. I believe since the UK left the EU, there's much more paperwork and consequently the cost has risen. British racehorses are also flown to America, Australia and Dubai and I can't imagine that's cheap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
