pogo(aus) 881 Report post Posted May 1, 2021 zelda loves this race and dresses up in her pink pants suit every year ( she's always late) to watch both the big days races at Churchill Downs on Pay TV being a massive social watcher she has bet Boris she can spy The Shake, Shazma and Lateefa in the crowd, i call BS and bet her 10 mint Julpes to 1 they will all be a no show. although boris did reckon he saw a bloke in a dressing gown that had a five oclock shadow and servo station sunnies watching malahaat win the oaks yesterday. keep your eyes peeled sheep shearers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhei Notts 1,413 Report post Posted May 1, 2021 TEN mint juleps! After three I start talking braille. Those Yanks are very generous with the quantity of bourbon placed in those juleps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 881 Report post Posted May 1, 2021 L Saez rode it like he had tweny on board IMHO he better not take a yacht trip anytime soon Burke and Wills. dock leaf 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobysnacks 386 Report post Posted May 1, 2021 Sportsbet didn't even have a betting market. The race has lost its appeal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 881 Report post Posted May 1, 2021 luis is coming to sydney Boris sayed dont get on the Manly Ferry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 742 Report post Posted May 2, 2021 zelda loves kentucky cos of its liquor laws.....wet ,dry and moist all at the same time ,gives her options ! an acquaintance went to kentucky derby because it was on his bucket list...........trouble was he never secured a ticket so they locked the gate at 150,000. They don't get that at the bool.....and like Sydney [NSW] and other civilised racing paces ,no jumps at Churchill Downs ! anyway , he decides he will go to a bar and watch the KD ,seeing he had travelled from Melbourne to see the event , then he finds the bar doesn't sell booze ! turns out parts of the state are dry ,and even in the wet and moist precincts there are bars that choose to be dry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 881 Report post Posted May 2, 2021 They don't get that at the bool.....and like Sydney [NSW] and other civilised racing paces ,no jumps at Churchill Downs ! funniest post ever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 742 Report post Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, pogo(aus) said: They don't get that at the bool.....and like Sydney [NSW] and other civilised racing paces ,no jumps at Churchill Downs ! funniest post ever They may get funnier now that Manu Vatavei is back in the news and really showing he learned something from Rugby League ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 881 Report post Posted May 2, 2021 he'll be hoping the charges are .........dropped ! tasman man 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6xes 699 Report post Posted May 11, 2021 So the Kentucky Derby took place, race winner "Medina spirit" was drug tested & the Trainer comes out denying any use of the in their training regime... yet acknowledges the substance which Medina Spirit tested postive for is widely used in the industry. its just a interesting story unfolding i guess... nothing new but does highlight something. anyway heres the article... and the clip https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/09/sports/horse-racing/bob-baffert-kentucky-derby-medina-spirit-drug-test.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6xes 699 Report post Posted May 11, 2021 i think what we are seeing here... is plain and simply dishonesty!! the question is... with who?? its a interesting scenario which tests our instincts, and our view of all things above us and below us, There is only 2 parties in this scenario Bob Baffert vs the Racing industry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted May 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, 6xes said: i think what we are seeing here... is plain and simply dishonesty!! the question is... with who?? its a interesting scenario which tests our instincts, and our view of all things above us and below us, There is only 2 parties in this scenario Bob Baffert vs the Racing industry I know who id back in this race and it's not BB , he does have a few previous , more than some, less than others but enough dock leaf 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6xes 699 Report post Posted May 11, 2021 some of us are led by logic... and thats normal!! but not everything can be resolved logically Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobysnacks 386 Report post Posted May 11, 2021 Bob Baffert is a cheat. There is no other way to describe him. Aaron Bidlake 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6xes 699 Report post Posted May 11, 2021 25 minutes ago, NextPlease said: Bob Baffert is a cheat. There is no other way to describe him. Bob Bafferts reputation is being put on the line.... a man who has had many a success with racing in the U.S this particular race being of significant importance in that it will be his 7th Kentucky Derby success... he has come out publically and defended himself.. is at a loss to how this could happen... in a time where we have seen attacks of high profile people, by the very institutions they are a part of... sound familiar yet?? logic would present itself to be true in an honest world... where institution can be trusted etc etc but i have seen so many things turned on its head... that reputation damage serves to be the bigger issue than the actual crime heres a recent interview of Bob Baffert Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted May 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, 6xes said: Bob Bafferts reputation is being put on the line.... a man who has had many a success with racing in the U.S this particular race being of significant importance in that it will be his 7th Kentucky Derby success... he has come out publically and defended himself.. is at a loss to how this could happen... in a time where we have seen attacks of high profile people, by the very institutions they are a part of... sound familiar yet?? logic would present itself to be true in an honest world... where institution can be trusted etc etc but i have seen so many things turned on its head... heres a recent interview of Bob Baffert Gamine got done twice in two states last year out his yard , Justify ate some weed or something, like an article said it's " the dog ate my homework " for entire term !!! , he's like Lance Armstrong , loads believed his crap , and as the great Yogi Berri said once , it's deja vu all over again . napier 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobysnacks 386 Report post Posted May 11, 2021 He was walking around acting as if he'd never heard of the drug. But claimed to be an expert on it earlier. He's a slimey as they come, and although you can't deny his successes, there is a mighty * next to his name. Justify, Triple Crown winner, returned a positive. It was swept under the carpet because American racing is dead, so they needed a pick'me up. The state of racing in the US couldn't get any lower. There is simply no interest and the 2021 Kentucky Derby was an absolutely shocking field. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6xes 699 Report post Posted May 11, 2021 failure to recognise the time and seasons we have entered into.... is like a man who decides to sow seeds for a winter based plant... at the end of winter!!! timing is everything in life... it determines success and failures to not recognise this simplistic view, in light of all the current things going on around us... begs the question, do we REALLY understand what is occurring around us!! the same is occurring in this unfolding story re Bob Baffert. innocent til proven guilty, but the industry reveals half its hand, withholding key cards.. making people ghasp and rushing to judgement!! sound familiar?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted May 11, 2021 30 minutes ago, 6xes said: failure to recognise the time and seasons we have entered into.... is like a man who decides to sow seeds for a winter based plant... at the end of winter!!! timing is everything in life... it determines success and failures to not recognise this simplistic view, in light of all the current things going on around us... begs the question, do we REALLY understand what is occurring around us!! the same is occurring in this unfolding story re Bob Baffert. innocent til proven guilty, but the industry reveals half its hand, withholding key cards.. making people ghasp and rushing to judgement!! sound familiar?? He hasn't been found guilty , horses return positives , it happens , but it happens more to him and it will play out . And on another point re US racing , Zendon , that was the Ben Johnson of horse each when that yank won in Dubai in March . Went faster than his legs could take per bugger . I've always loved US racing , some great tracks but I agree with Next Please it's on its way out quickly imho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted May 11, 2021 Between Nov 2011 and March 2013 7 horses trained by Baffert dropped dead , heart giving out , internal bleeds . Seems a high number even for a trainer with his volumes . He learnt his trade in Quarter Horses , doping is part of the fabric of that sport . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6xes 699 Report post Posted May 11, 2021 35 minutes ago, Red Rum said: Between Nov 2011 and March 2013 7 horses trained by Baffert dropped dead , heart giving out , internal bleeds . Seems a high number even for a trainer with his volumes . He learnt his trade in Quarter Horses , doping is part of the fabric of that sport . im sure we can deduce alot of possible scenario's from races of the past!!! and integrity within the industry was high!! but as i mentioned before, we are in a different season and clearly a different time.. i will acknowledge the Dubai race as one of interest!! For the simple fact the Medina Spirit meaning is tied with dubai in a weird sort of way... i wont dwelve into it... but you recognising that particular incident in that part of the world begs the question of what sort of enquiry was carried out? investigation etc etc. as it would seem you are attempting to imply that the horse died becos of some form of doping?? so what became of it?? was there an enquiry?? was there a drug test done?? alot of questions,,, but the industry what? swept it under the carpet? called it unfortunate? *shrugs yet re Bob Baffert, his horse lives and he's given the 3rd degree accused in the court of puiblic opinion... and reputation going through the washing maschine!!?? why?? cos an institution that is considered to have integrity.. has a legitimate roll to play? once again... you may end up suprised with the outcome... in that Bob Bafferts reputation is the thing on trial... not the integrity of the industry.. no we certainly couldnt question that!!! we need not look to far a field to understand whats playing out in front of us, where protection of a "killers" name is more important, than the fact he was guilty!!! clearly things are upside down re-trusted institutions!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted May 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, 6xes said: im sure we can deduce alot of possible scenario's from races of the past!!! and integrity within the industry was high!! but as i mentioned before, we are in a different season and clearly a different time.. i will acknowledge the Dubai race as one of interest!! For the simple fact the Medina Spirit meaning is tied with dubai in a weird sort of way... i wont dwelve into it... but you recognising that particular incident in that part of the world begs the question of what sort of enquiry was carried out? investigation etc etc. as it would seem you are attempting to imply that the horse died becos of some form of doping?? so what became of it?? was there an enquiry?? was there a drug test done?? alot of questions,,, but the industry what? swept it under the carpet? called it unfortunate? *shrugs yet re Bob Baffert, his horse lives and he's given the 3rd degree accused in the court of puiblic opinion... and reputation going through the washing maschine!!?? why?? cos an institution that is considered to have integrity.. has a legitimate roll to play? once again... you may end up suprised with the outcome... in that Bob Bafferts reputation is the thing on trial... not the integrity of the industry.. no we certainly couldnt question that!!! we need not look to far a field to understand whats playing out in front of us, where protection of a witnesses name is more important, than the fact he was guilty!!! clearly things are upside down re-trusted institutions!! Anyone who saw Zendon in that Dubai race looked at the form and then the tragic incident after must have wondered, Nick Luck implied he would be interested in the finding of the enquiry . Anyway Baffert didn't train him , but it was a sample of why US racing has that nagging doubt about if for some . 6xes 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted May 11, 2021 43 minutes ago, 6xes said: im sure we can deduce alot of possible scenario's from races of the past!!! and integrity within the industry was high!! but as i mentioned before, we are in a different season and clearly a different time.. i will acknowledge the Dubai race as one of interest!! For the simple fact the Medina Spirit meaning is tied with dubai in a weird sort of way... i wont dwelve into it... but you recognising that particular incident in that part of the world begs the question of what sort of enquiry was carried out? investigation etc etc. as it would seem you are attempting to imply that the horse died becos of some form of doping?? so what became of it?? was there an enquiry?? was there a drug test done?? alot of questions,,, but the industry what? swept it under the carpet? called it unfortunate? *shrugs yet re Bob Baffert, his horse lives and he's given the 3rd degree accused in the court of puiblic opinion... and reputation going through the washing maschine!!?? why?? cos an institution that is considered to have integrity.. has a legitimate roll to play? once again... you may end up suprised with the outcome... in that Bob Bafferts reputation is the thing on trial... not the integrity of the industry.. no we certainly couldnt question that!!! we need not look to far a field to understand whats playing out in front of us, where protection of a "killers" name is more important, than the fact he was guilty!!! clearly things are upside down re-trusted institutions!! Carlos David trainer of Zendon , former assistant to Jason Servis , Servis currently suspended having been arrested by the FBI accused of running a large scale horse doping ring . Carlos had his first winner as a trainer with a maiden on 5th start who bolted in by 10 lengths. It smells a bit , like Baffert smells a bit . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6xes 699 Report post Posted May 11, 2021 im watching this to get a look into the Jason Servis trainer you bring forward!! Red Rum 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6xes 699 Report post Posted May 12, 2021 well heres a nice turn in the saga... but even this has the possibility to change!! such is the nature of our times!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
