JJ Flash 2,115 Report post Posted April 27, 2021 Fresh from Rangiora's 1390 experiment Ashburton on Saturday is running 6 1700 metre races. Given how many go their to register fast mile rates for breading purposes is this a wise move by the club. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,085 Report post Posted April 27, 2021 Maybe another "novel" day though running mile meetings is not uncommon. My gripe is that horses running 1.59.8 are still getting black type. Given our quality of tracks today any horse running, say, 1.56 or slower doesn't deserve black type. JJ Flash and LongOwner 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelli 426 Report post Posted April 28, 2021 Agree that sub 2.00 MR for pacers is ho hum. But for trotters it is important, especially given the rarity of mobile sprints for the average trotter. In the NI if ýou can't get a good time as a juvenile or in the few maiden mobiles, you have to wait till racing in feature races. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Piper 404 Report post Posted April 28, 2021 Where do we look at when giving black type regarding the time clock ? 1609 / 1700 sub 1:55 ? 1950 - 2300 sub 1:57 ? 2400 - 2800 sub 1:58 ? 3200 sub 1:59 ? Do we move these Mile rate goal posts up 2 sec when racing on grass ? or Slushy tracks ? What about 2yo's ? Do we keep the present system with a tweak - running the last half in sub 55 ? 56 ? 57 ? Interestingly there is no last half posted in the result of Don'tLie To Me's 1609 win at Rangiora last weekend . Mile in 2:01.1 However take Pam Bromac's 2006 run @ Ashburton over the mile running 1:57.2 , last half 57.4 , quarter in 26.9. Basically from last at the quarter Mark. Also the qualifying standard over a mile is set over the 2 minute Mark (might be different at different tracks) What really does deserve Black Type ? We have listed races, group races and age group races (Classics). JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,711 Report post Posted April 28, 2021 Who benefits from Black Type these days? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelli 426 Report post Posted April 29, 2021 4 hours ago, eljay said: Who benefits from Black Type these days? It helps those who are breeders and sell stock at sales. Buyers pay more attention to catalogue pages with black type and one hopes they differentiate between pages filled with 1.59 pacers from those stacked with Group race and >$100K winners. As a breeder of trotters for 30 years, it still gives me warm fuzzies when one of the family gets black type. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...