Rules For Some 163 Report post Posted April 16, 2021 What are people's thoughts on the new review into the welfare and safety of racing dogs? Will be interesting to see the outcomes of this. Surely mass breeding will be under the microscope this time id imagine. MiniJax 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jape 344 Report post Posted April 16, 2021 I do hope those responsible or involved in this review are made to read the article by Jim Edwards on this very issue to provide some balance to the activists whose sole purpose in life seems to be to stop greyhound racing. The greyhounds, btw, would tell you, if they could, that they love racing. No whips, no jockey, no driver. Just competitive animals bred to race and enjoying it. meomy and mightymike 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhei Notts 1,413 Report post Posted April 16, 2021 I saw a lovely video of a race at Gawler. One dog was put over the fence, then he cut the corner and ran around the inside of the track and beat everything else. Of course he was not the declared winner, as he had cut the corner by so much, but that dog so loved racing that he would do anything to join the others. They love racing. meomy and mightymike 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jape 344 Report post Posted April 16, 2021 Can someone please get the Minister for Racing to read Jim Edwards' article published in the SST of April 11 and headed "Fear not, greyhounds are protected and cared for" Listening to the Minister's comments on tv, and hearing them again this morning, I can only surmise that he is being misinformed. lad27 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meomy 971 Report post Posted April 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Jape said: Can someone please get the Minister for Racing to read Jim Edwards' article published in the SST of April 11 and headed "Fear not, greyhounds are protected and cared for" Listening to the Minister's comments on tv, and hearing them again this morning, I can only surmise that he is being misinformed. Or perhaps The Ministers are out of touch with the real world and what Politicians are lawfully abided to comply with...you know that Little Red Cabinet Manual and looking after the Betterment of the economy. The later is something the current lot have seriously failed to adhere to. Great to see former UK PM David Cameron has been assigned to undertake an enquiry into how the Government in the UK is currently in disarray, Truth will come out and heads will roll trust us Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rules For Some 163 Report post Posted April 17, 2021 People in this industry are naive. Having worked outside of the industry, most people think the industry is already closed and many find greyhound racing a repulsive sport, to the point where I don't discuss any of my dealings within the industry with people. I sure hope they don't enquire into where all these dogs being bred that aren't put through gap or make it to the track go because this will be the undoing of racing. I've Said it in here plenty of times but no one even wants to acknowledge that there's a problem that needs to be rectified. Everyone defends the people that do this. feral, Dissident, hedley and 3 others 5 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
feral 36 Report post Posted April 17, 2021 8 hours ago, Jape said: Can someone please get the Minister for Racing to read Jim Edwards' article published in the SST of April 11 and headed "Fear not, greyhounds are protected and cared for" We have Greyhound Racing New Zealand (GRNZ) who so call run this industry. Surely it is up to the CEO and her team to be proactive and argue the remarks put forward by the minister. Alas no another absent landlord who will jump ship when it gets tough. meomy and Jape 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,004 Report post Posted April 17, 2021 Don't know much about greyhounds but when one falls it immediately gets up and chases the pack. Also I have noticed that some are bandaged these days. The SAFE organisation tell more half truths than the politicians. meomy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjay 451 Report post Posted April 19, 2021 When are the Greenies going to attack big game fish hunters whom catch and release after being on a line for 1-2 hours? Is that considered cruel at all. meomy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rules For Some 163 Report post Posted April 19, 2021 16 hours ago, arjay said: When are the Greenies going to attack big game fish hunters whom catch and release after being on a line for 1-2 hours? Is that considered cruel at all. Casting the blame on other industries wont solve anything MiniJax, meomy and arjay 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palliser 759 Report post Posted April 21, 2021 Typical .. Grant Robertson saying he's not happy with NZGRA for not acting on safety concerns. And he specifically mentioned the Wanganui track .. what happens we get a shower or too and the track is stuffed, meeting off. Why can't someone get to the bottom of this .. it just goes on and on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palliser 759 Report post Posted April 21, 2021 Also noticed on T.V some lady stating that it is cruel to make animals race around a track and that their welfare is at stake ?? .. um hello the greyhounds run of their own accord because they love it. She needs to think about gallops and harness racing where animals are ridden or steered around the track with the aid of a whip etc. Why are greyhounds singled out ???? .. I agree that it needs cleaning up, but it doesn't help slapping people with a wet bus ticket for breaking the rules either .. hardly a deterrent. We are our own worst enemies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob 92 Report post Posted April 21, 2021 They need a review into the Green Party and the one sided opinion they have They dont even know the correct Name of the country They want greyhounds basically banned and dont care about reviews meomy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggie 1 Report post Posted April 21, 2021 Its interesting putting the pieces of the puzzle together. Cleo Swarbrick - Green party Gareth Hughes - Green Party SAFE - Board member Gareth Hughes NAWAC committee - Anya Dale (SPCA) GRNZ welfare committee - Anya Dale (SPCA) Aaron Cross - Greyhound protection league and supported by SAFE ALL out to shut down Greyhound Racing..... meomy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jape 344 Report post Posted April 22, 2021 On 4/17/2021 at 3:21 PM, Rules For Some said: People in this industry are naive. Having worked outside of the industry, most people think the industry is already closed and many find greyhound racing a repulsive sport, to the point where I don't discuss any of my dealings within the industry with people. I sure hope they don't enquire into where all these dogs being bred that aren't put through gap or make it to the track go because this will be the undoing of racing. I've Said it in here plenty of times but no one even wants to acknowledge that there's a problem that needs to be rectified. Everyone defends the people that do this. I disagree. The statements "most people think the industry is already closed" and " many find greyhound racing a repulsive sport" appear contradictory. I am not at all sure of their relevance either. Incidentally, many people find Mixed Martial Arts repulsive but it does not prevent it from getting a staggering amount of coverage both in print and on the screen. Anyway, I have had the experience of someone looking askance at me when she discovered I was involved in greyhound racing. I took her through the day in a greyhound's life and a day at the races. She changed her attitude and confessed she knew nothing about greyhounds and was now impressed with how well they are looked after. That there have been problems has been well documented and this is the thrust of Jim Edwards' article. He points out the changes that have been made and the improvements. "The concerns expressed by the SPCA and SAFE indicate a lack of current knowledge as the fears they have raised are many years out of date" He goes on to outline many of those changes and concludes by writing "GRNZ accepts there will always. be those who do not support the racing of animals and want it banned. They are entitled to this belief, but it important when opposing any activity that the true picture is acknowledged and misinformation is corrected." rouseabout and meomy 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 203 Report post Posted April 22, 2021 Swarbrick supports decriminalising all drug use. But not in the greyhound industry . She also authoritatively states that the Turnbull case is the 'tip of the iceberg'. What does she base that statement on? Just a populist lightweight. meomy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meomy 971 Report post Posted April 22, 2021 On 4/21/2021 at 4:58 PM, Doggie said: Its interesting putting the pieces of the puzzle together. Cleo Swarbrick - Green party Gareth Hughes - Green Party SAFE - Board member Gareth Hughes NAWAC committee - Anya Dale (SPCA) GRNZ welfare committee - Anya Dale (SPCA) Aaron Cross - Greyhound protection league and supported by SAFE ALL out to shut down Greyhound Racing..... Conflicts of interest all around. Have they disclosed all these Conflicts of interest in all documentation? If not, why not? It's in the Parliamentary Red Book Manual, isn't it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palliser 759 Report post Posted April 22, 2021 Well .. Thanks very much Turnwald and Freeman again. This has really helped things .... NOT !!!!! TurnyTom, happy and Gruff 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted April 22, 2021 Just saw that on TV , the good ol P strikes again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
feral 36 Report post Posted April 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, Palliser said: Well .. Thanks very much Turnwald and Freeman again. This has really helped things .... NOT !!!!! The JCA and RIU also did not help with their pathetic response. Keneperu 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palliser 759 Report post Posted April 22, 2021 What really pisses me off, is same associated groups of people again. And there are greyhound identities who have been associated with this kennel who must know this sort of thing goes on .. but they plead ignorance. It is far more widespread than people think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,541 Report post Posted April 22, 2021 The doggies are in a power of trouble once the journos get stuck in Just cannot see greyhounds surviving and with live baiting and now P, issues not even on the table the going gets worse Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted April 22, 2021 Your only as Strong as your weakest link Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palliser 759 Report post Posted April 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Gruff said: Your only as Strong as your weakest link In this case it's multiple weak or corrupt links happy, Keneperu and Gary Sharp 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jape 344 Report post Posted April 26, 2021 On 4/21/2021 at 4:32 PM, jimbob said: They need a review into the Green Party and the one sided opinion they have They dont even know the correct Name of the country They want greyhounds basically banned and dont care about reviews They are desperately trying to influence that review as the Jim Edwards' article points out the steps that have been taken in recent times to answer the critics/activists. Chloe Swarbrick's Opinion article in the SST of April 25 is another attempt to do the same. The Edwards' article has obviously deflated their opinionated attack on greyhound racing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...