Blue 1,099 Report post Posted April 8, 2021 Just wondering, with the huge growth in trotting numbers of late, why are 2yo pacers divided into separate colts and fillies races yet 2yo trotters are mixed? At this point in time in the top rated 12, seven are fillies and there are ten of each in the top twenty so it's not as if it's weighted towards one sex. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 742 Report post Posted April 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Blue said: Just wondering, with the huge growth in trotting numbers of late, why are 2yo pacers divided into separate colts and fillies races yet 2yo trotters are mixed? At this point in time in the top rated 12, seven are fillies and there are ten of each in the top twenty so it's not as if it's weighted towards one sex. IMO its a historical thing.....when the Jewels began , young trotters were very low in numbers , in fact at most meetings there was usually approx 3 trotting races to every 6 to 9 pacing races. That's between 25% and 33%. Yes the tide seems to be turning , definitely this year in 2 yr old ranks. Only 2 years ago 2 yr old trotting races were usually down graded to Non-tote races for $2 ,000 stake cos lack of numbers ! In early days of Jewels the stakes needed to qualify for 2 yr old trot were very low. In addition trotting races usually attract less betting . So a combination of less horses ,less races ,and lower betting means less stakes . And though not relevant to Jewels ,standing starts attract less betting in particular Trot stands. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelli 434 Report post Posted April 9, 2021 As an owner and breeder of trotters I don't mind 2yo races being for both sexes as the fillies do just as well as c&g at that age (just look at 2yo records). Also numbers are low for various reasons, including why go to all the expense and risk of getting a baby race fit in the NI when most races in the past ended up as non-totes. However, there is little justification for not splitting at least the 4yo trotters by sex at the Jewels. In the pacers 4yo rankings for the last Jewels there were heaps of defections with horses exported to Aussie whereas the pool of higher ranked trotters remained strong. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalboy 32 Report post Posted April 9, 2021 Let’s be honest, I am a breeder but why would you go to the time and money to breed a trotter. By stats, the top young trotters come out of the yearling sales with the same owners. It doesn’t help when the same trainers keep winning as well, the game is on a lot of trouble especially when issues like Jesse Alford are not sorted out straight away. Wake up everyone!!, personally I am sick of it.. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelli 434 Report post Posted April 9, 2021 So far in the 4yo rankings for the 2021 Jewels: 206 h&g listed as having raced this season with 31% withdrawals (exported/turned out etc) = 143 remaining 158 mares with 29% withdrawals (=112 remaining) 130 trotters with 11% withdrawals (=116) This suggests the current format and stakes are fair, though is tough for the trotting mares JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45yearsofharness 173 Report post Posted April 10, 2021 On 4/9/2021 at 10:47 AM, Blue said: Just wondering, with the huge growth in trotting numbers of late, why are 2yo pacers divided into separate colts and fillies races yet 2yo trotters are mixed? At this point in time in the top rated 12, seven are fillies and there are ten of each in the top twenty so it's not as if it's weighted towards one sex. 8 of the trot Jewels races over the years have been won by filly's, not a bad record since they do run against colts and geldings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
