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Filly linebreeding.

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Petite Etoile has balanced linebreeding to full sisters, with Petition providing two male strains of Windermere (through Muncaster) and Star of Iran supplying the two female strains of the full sister Frivolity. Perhaps another example of top class race fillies carrying male and female strains of a female ancestor.

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Hi HH,

Listening to Opie Bosson labelling  Imperatriz as maybe the next superstar after her second G1 win,any thoughts re her breeding, seems real quality in the dam sires area. I would appreciate  your thoughts.

Many thanks  Pheroz.

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Hello Pheroz, 

Without a detailed pedigree analysis it is really difficult to comment.

The purpose of the posts in the thread are to demonstrate the principle that appears to be at work in the pedigrees of top class race fillies (i.e. sex balanced linebreeding to a female ancestor) However if Opie has labelled her he is seldom wrong. 

 

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Some thoughts on Fireburn:

Firstly the linebreeding to full brother/sister Ridan and Thong:

They have balanced linebreeding to Ormonde and his full brother in blood Martagon plus the full sisters Windermere and Frivolity. 

There is additional linebreeding to Troutbeck and his full sister Mountain Lass whose second dam Rydal is a full sister to Kendal - all from the same crack #16 family. 

Sweet Marjorie is also a full sister to Tredennis (not teased out on the pedigree sheet) who appears through Ribot etc. 

It would be reasonable to assume that fillies of Fireburn's ability would have elements in their pedigree that would differentiate them from others (the Ridan/Thong duplication is not altogether uncommon) and here it may be her balanced duplications of (the dam of two Derby winners) Friars Daughter, again from the same #16 family.

It could be argued this build up of balanced linebreeding in the background to the same family is coalescing with Ridan/Thong. 

Of interest Friars Daughter is out of a mare by Roseland whose 4th dam is Electric Light. So You Think's dam line traces to Winning Flight by Winning Hit who carries a double of Bill of Portland, a son or male strain of Electric Light.

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Jennifer Eccles - a pedigree puzzle and a possible solution with linebreeding to full brother/sister Diadem and Diadumenos.  Diadem won the 1000 Guineas, ran second in the Oaks ,and won both the July Cup and Kings Stand Stakes – twice.  Diadumenos was rated as the best sprinter of his time.  There is some anecdotal evidence Crested Wave (who carries the line of Diadem) exerted similar pedigree influence back in the 1980s with two good ones in Surfers Paradise -NZ Derby, NZ 2000 Guineas, W.S. Cox Plate, Rosehill Guineas and Plume, NZ 1000 Guineas, Champion NZ 3yo filly of her year.

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Fanfreluche, one of Northern Dancer's good fillies accurately reflecting the linebreeding identified in the Northern Dancer – et al post with male and female strains of both Robert le Diable and St Marguerite, the later providing what could be called the “filly factor” i.e. a son and daughter of a female ancestor. 

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