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Who was that lunatic standing in middle of home straight @ 150m mark at Trentham ?

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22 minutes ago, shaneMcAlister said:

Banning him for life from all racecourses, does it work?  Surely the gate staff (if any) in 2 years time would not recognise him?!?!

They may well consider giving him a trespass notice at court to cover all licenced racecourses in NZ , give a bit more weight to ban . Can be handed to him as he leaves court . It would be a matter for gate staff and security being well briefed prior to deployment to keep him out  on raceday.  They no doubt have full briefings anyway so bung his mug shot up then .

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31 minutes ago, shaneMcAlister said:

Banning him for life from all racecourses, does it work?  Surely the gate staff (if any) in 2 years time would not recognise him?!?!

Was many years ago at the sadly  defunct Hackney Dogs in London a bloke paid few quid to throw a chair on track on final bend if the right dog wasnt winning , cannot remember the sentence it was so long ago but he did it and went down for it  Not quite on the level of Saturday  madness though. . 

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45 minutes ago, shaneMcAlister said:

Banning him for life from all racecourses, does it work?  Surely the gate staff (if any) in 2 years time would not recognise him?!?!

Totally agree but because he is such a dangerous liability, would love to see him banned from ALL stadiums in NZ 

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24 minutes ago, poundforpound said:

Don’t forget the suffragette Emily Davison who ran onto the track during the Epsom Derby in 1913 and was killed by a horse owned by the King .... one might suggest this lunatic deserved a similar fate on Saturday, and was only saved by the fact NZ jockeys are better than their UK counterparts 

 

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Best streak on a racecourse was Tontonan’s Doncaster Hcp win in. 1974. I was on track that day and this totally naked couple ran down the straight as the full field thundered into the straight. In those days, people didn’t shave their nether regions, so the girl looked like she was wearing a fur hat! After the race, asked for a comment, Winning trainer JB Cummings commented that in his opinion, the Colt won by a good length! 

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9 hours ago, Trump said:

Best streak on a racecourse was Tontonan’s Doncaster Hcp win in. 1974. I was on track that day and this totally naked couple ran down the straight as the full field thundered into the straight. In those days, people didn’t shave their nether regions, so the girl looked like she was wearing a fur hat! After the race, asked for a comment, Winning trainer JB Cummings commented that in his opinion, the Colt won by a good length! 

Doncaster Handicap 1974 – Scone Vet Dynasty

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haha

great mammaries of 1974. tontonan beating off toltrice whata great race and day that was.

the female streaker was a KIWI lass , a barmaid from maroubra who had also worked at the famous two up school at darlinghurst called Thommos :huh:

that photo i think was taken by ron bickley and adorned many a pub, sp joint and club over the years .

living in the seventies, i'm living in the seventies 😍

 

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58 minutes ago, TurnyTom said:

This clown must be banned from all public venues for a minimum of 10 years and a fine of $10k payable in 31 days or 6 months in the big house with fine not waived

A strong message must be handed down 

I vote for 6 months, maybe that is what he wants, he might be partial to the taste of gang members private parts.

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For days like Wellington Cup day racing clubs must spend a fortune on extra security.  That effort at Trentham last Saturday suggests to me that the security contractors are taking their money under false pretenses.

Another poster suggested that the idiot could get sacked for bringing his employer into disrepute.  My mate in human resources tells me that such an instant dismissal would entitle the idiot to a payout, possibly as high as $40,000, for unfair dismissal.  However; if the idiot had maligned a fudge packer then instant dismissal would be accepted as good business practice and any claim for unfair dismissal would be dismissed.  I am part of that minority who think that standing in front of racehorses with 100 metres to go in a horse race is a much more serious offence than mimicking the mince of a tail gunner.

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3 hours ago, Tauhei Notts said:

For days like Wellington Cup day racing clubs must spend a fortune on extra security.  That effort at Trentham last Saturday suggests to me that the security contractors are taking their money under false pretenses.

Another poster suggested that the idiot could get sacked for bringing his employer into disrepute.  My mate in human resources tells me that such an instant dismissal would entitle the idiot to a payout, possibly as high as $40,000, for unfair dismissal.  However; if the idiot had maligned a fudge packer then instant dismissal would be accepted as good business practice and any claim for unfair dismissal would be dismissed.  I am part of that minority who think that standing in front of racehorses with 100 metres to go in a horse race is a much more serious offence than mimicking the mince of a tail gunner.

Come on Tahuei Notts, we have to be better than comments like this on this site.  

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22 minutes ago, Tauhei Notts said:

Yes, I am part of a minority.

If commenting upon the abysmal performance of highly paid security officers is unwelcome then I must accept your vitriolic criticism on the chin.

There is no way the security could have stopped that guy, he sprinted from a way back and then jumped 3 fences. The only way he could have been stopped would have been with a gun, then you would have ended up with a pile of shit lying on the track. Don't think armed security at the races is an option.

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2 hours ago, Tauhei Notts said:

Yes, I am part of a minority.

If commenting upon the abysmal performance of highly paid security officers is unwelcome then I must accept your vitriolic criticism on the chin.

I've got a feeling Shane wasn't referring to the assessment of the security guards performance , and in that regard if someone's determined to do something so mad as that  it's more luck than anything if it's stopped , . A stiff sentence will be the best outcome as we cannot have three deep security every 10 metres like  a State Visit of Head of State . 

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PLEASE, no more security as an over-reaction to this episode. I had to negotiate 3 levels of the goons at Cup week, Riccarton, 2019 just to catch up with Cubes in the Members Stand. They are already an out of control growth industry like road cone marshals!

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1 hour ago, chevy86 said:

PLEASE, no more security as an over-reaction to this episode. I had to negotiate 3 levels of the goons at Cup week, Riccarton, 2019 just to catch up with Cubes in the Members Stand. They are already an out of control growth industry like road cone marshals!

More security wpundnt have stopped his actions imho , maybe if he was that ratted arguably he would have been seen before and kicked out but I doubt  it Courses will have to review this incident but I don't think they need to throw the baby out with the bathwater on this one . Someone tackled the ref in SA few years back, weird shit happens at times .

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I think the security was at fault.That Red Badge rabble were all too busy watching the race instead of the public.They were stationed 20 or so meters apart but not one of them even flinched until the incident was over.If that wasnt bad enough after getting that huge wake up call 2 races later just before the last race 2 streakers jumped the fence in almost the same spot and ran across the track and disappeared into the distance and across the track again to escape over the back fence.Red Badge security shouldnt be paid for the day after these 2 security breaches and maybe they should be asked if they could ensure their workers present themselves in a better condition of fitness in future if they want to keep their jobs.

 

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It's not easy getting the right balance between providing a secure environment in which racing can take place and ensuring it's a enjoyable and relaxing day out for those spending a day at the races.

Over here, there is a problem at tracks which cross public land such as Epsom and York. At those venues, the public has every right to use the land in the middle of the racetrack but can only cross the course for example at designated points under direction on race days. Even during Covid, we've seen people on the outside of tracks watching the racing but as they are on public land not the racecourse there's nothing the track can do - drones are another aspect of this.

Marshals face the crowd rather than the races to ensure we don't get objects thrown on to the track or people trying to trespass (for that's what it is legally). The other "challenges" are dogs getting loose from walkers on the adjoining land and at one or two tracks (Newcastle), deer trying to get on the track. Now, there's only so much you can do about the latter but the former can be addressed by reminding dog walkers to keep dogs on leads near racehorses.

I'm afraid drink is and can be a big problem in terms of crowd control - there have been well-documented instances of fights at Ascot, Goodwood, Newbury and elsewhere. Societal attitudes to alcohol are one part of this - I doubt there would be much support for "dry" racecourses but we have for instance a ban on taking glasses outside - it has to be plastic containers.

Some of the worst behaviour is in the corporate boxes but apart from the noise that isn't really an issue.

I have heard some colourful language directed at a few jockeys in my time - I witnessed one incident at Lingfield when a senior jockey who was a tad over-confident on an odds-on favourite and got chinned on the post had to be escorted by security from the unsaddling enclosure to the weighing -in room as he was in danger of being lynched by an angry mob of punters.

There is a limited on-site Police presence at most meetings - the courses have to pay for that and not all of them do.

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