Where are the maidens, where is our stake money!

[shaneMcAlister 1,425]

In the North Island this time last year there was maiden races at

• Rotoroa 15 Jan
• New Plymouth 16 jan
• Te Rapa 19 Jan
• Otaki 20 Jan
• Avondale 22 Jan
• Wingatuii 23 Jan
• Te Teko 27 Jan
• Hastings 29 Jan

This year in same period we have:

• Wanganui 14 Jan
• Te Rapa 21 Jan
• Matamata 25 Jan
• Hastings 28 Jan

 

This is half the races.  If you are going to half the races then lets at least double the stakes!!!  

 

 

 

[edor 67]

totally agree shane and maidens are still getting eliminated

[JJ Flash 2,135]

1 hour ago, shaneMcAlister said:

In the North Island this time last year there was maiden races at

• Rotoroa 15 Jan
• New Plymouth 16 jan
• Te Rapa 19 Jan
• Otaki 20 Jan
• Avondale 22 Jan
• Wingatuii 23 Jan
• Te Teko 27 Jan
• Hastings 29 Jan

This year in same period we have:

• Wanganui 14 Jan
• Te Rapa 21 Jan
• Matamata 25 Jan
• Hastings 28 Jan

 

This is half the races.  If you are going to half the races then lets at least double the stakes!!!  

 

 

 

Why don't you send a mail to NZTR and ask the same question. They are the ones who do the programming

[Varro 244]

2 hours ago, shaneMcAlister said:

In the North Island this time last year there was maiden races at

• Rotoroa 15 Jan
• New Plymouth 16 jan
• Te Rapa 19 Jan
• Otaki 20 Jan
• Avondale 22 Jan
• Wingatuii 23 Jan
• Te Teko 27 Jan
• Hastings 29 Jan

This year in same period we have:

• Wanganui 14 Jan
• Te Rapa 21 Jan
• Matamata 25 Jan
• Hastings 28 Jan

 

This is half the races.  If you are going to half the races then lets at least double the stakes!!!  

 

 

 

how much input or say do you get into programming with regards to pukekohe shane?

[mikenz 1,088]

Good noms for Wanganui in maiden races.

[Varro 244]

28 minutes ago, JJ Flash said:

Why don't you send a mail to NZTR and ask the same question. They are the ones who do the programming

NZTR monitor this site and would be familiar with Shane's position. 

[shaneMcAlister 1,425]

29 minutes ago, JJ Flash said:

Why don't you send a mail to NZTR and ask the same question. They are the ones who do the programming

Thanks JJ Flash.  But I have two other questions with NZTR that are met with no replies so I would hardly expect a reply on this.

[shaneMcAlister 1,425]

1 minute ago, mikenz said:

Good noms for Wanganui in maiden races.

Because they have no where else to go.....

[mikenz 1,088]

Just now, shaneMcAlister said:

Because they have no where else to go.....

Only a week or ten days ago struggled to get to 6 races at two meetings,Trentham have 2 maiden races on the middle day.

[JJ Flash 2,135]

14 minutes ago, shaneMcAlister said:

Thanks JJ Flash.  But I have two other questions with NZTR that are met with no replies so I would hardly expect a reply on this.

Go up a notch then.Brians daughter seems to have her finger on the pulse so to speak.

Mediocrity  under MIA and Carter is gone

[Huey 2,037]

Less race days, less races - look at the fields sizes haven't we done well !!!

Wait a minute AWT will definitely fix this problem ... ffs!

[We're Doomed 4,855]

22 minutes ago, shaneMcAlister said:

Thanks JJ Flash.  But I have two other questions with NZTR that are met with no replies so I would hardly expect a reply on this.

Dare I say, they probably didn't understand the question.

[mr_gee 416]

  your bang  on shane  and  i think your only going find this the norm over the years big   clubs  with new synthetic tracks wont want maidens 

 

just another reason to send more ofshore 

 

 

they  sit there and belt on  . with this new  tab ad about how much  money will go  back  in

 

 

but serious  question if they limiting number of races  ,  where will money  to stakes just feed the rich  clubs ?

 

 

and have more clubs shut doors 

 

all the lil clubs wil be landed with maiden races 

 

 

3 hours ago, shaneMcAlister said:

Thanks JJ Flash.  But I have two other questions with NZTR that are met with no replies so I would hardly expect a reply on this.

2 hours ago, Huey said:

 

[mikenz 1,088]

I thought the AWT was running midweek industry meetings,weekends back on grass,well that's the calander for this winter anyway.

[Huey 2,037]

If the line is the industry can't afford the races, then is it time to bring in another sphere of racing , perhaps for less stakes at the smaller venues (I know they are hell bent on selling the lot of them) something that would take racing back to these smaller venues and give the local community something to build on and owners are trainers some more options. It isn't hard, perhaps some lesser form of media to show them on, well less expensive that is.

But something to actually adequately service the industry, surely it isn't too much to ask for the brains trust at NZTR to come up with some ideas, like clubs fund half stakes or something. I know the issue here in NZ is that those meetings would likely be far more successful than a lot of the larger meetings and that in itself would be an issue with the strategy the industry continues to aimlessly pursue for the benefit of but a few! 

[JJ Flash 2,135]

15 hours ago, We're Doomed said:

Dare I say, they probably didn't understand the question.

Quite possibly- if they dont reply you would never know for sure

[mikenz 1,088]

7 maiden races at Wanganui.full fields too,so what was the problem with Taranaki.Hawkes Bay and Wairarapa over xmas new year with small fields,does anyone have an answer?

Wingatui,(Waikouiti) this sat,I'd say numbers will be strong,2 weeks since Riverton,something wrong if there ain't.

[shaneMcAlister 1,425]

25 minutes ago, mikenz said:

7 maiden races at Wanganui.full fields too,so what was the problem with Taranaki.Hawkes Bay and Wairarapa over xmas new year with small fields,does anyone have an answer?

Wingatui,(Waikouiti) this sat,I'd say numbers will be strong,2 weeks since Riverton,something wrong if there ain't.

Re Hastings, two North Island meetings on same day should not happen.  The Levin Stakes and Telegraph noms are out shortly (they will be light on numbers).....lets compare these to years gone by.,  

We are saturated with Maidens and 65 rated horses in NZ and not enough races for them.  If you are good enough to get out of these grades you generally get sold (except the larger syndicated horses).  Horses that can't get out of these grades will find their careers cut short.  It is very thin above these grades.

[mikenz 1,088]

12 minutes ago, shaneMcAlister said:

Re Hastings, two North Island meetings on same day should not happen.  The Levin Stakes and Telegraph noms are out shortly (they will be light on numbers).....lets compare these to years gone by.,  

We are saturated with Maidens and 65 rated horses in NZ and not enough races for them.  If you are good enough to get out of these grades you generally get sold (except the larger syndicated horses).  Horses that can't get out of these grades will find their careers cut short.  It is very thin above these grades.

That Hawkes bay meeting had has always been poor numbers wise,if that was in South Island it would be shutdown,Wairarapa on jan 2 was helped by 5 trot races.

12 noms for the big race on Saturday at Trentham,11 for another,racings just the same as harness these days,very light on numbers in top class,.

Be interesting to see how many line up in the Wellington Cup,once an iconic race.

[Huey 2,037]

4 hours ago, mikenz said:

That Hawkes bay meeting had has always been poor numbers wise,if that was in South Island it would be shutdown,Wairarapa on jan 2 was helped by 5 trot races.

12 noms for the big race on Saturday at Trentham,11 for another,racings just the same as harness these days,very light on numbers in top class,.

Be interesting to see how many line up in the Wellington Cup,once an iconic race.

Broken record, but the whole thing needs a rejig. That won't happen while NZTR and others have an ulterior motive behind everything they are doing.

[mikenz 1,088]

43 minutes ago, Huey said:

Broken record, but the whole thing needs a rejig. That won't happen while NZTR and others have an ulterior motive behind everything they are doing.

I think we are becoming broken records,these sites tend to consume a fair bit of time,could be worse though,could be on facebook,Twitter or whatever,mind you those on there if they chat racing probably the same issues.