mikenz 1,090 Report post Posted January 2, 2021 What would be the state of play today,how would racing continue,might seem a silly question but think about it,many slag them off but without them,what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightsOut 486 Report post Posted January 3, 2021 Match racing every runner puts in an amount eg $500 either winner takes all or split on placed. If you want to race for big money you go overseas. Either that to make money from horses open a restaurant. https://gordon-ramsay-recipe.com/recipes-of-italian-cuisine/22-ways-to-cook-horse-meat-italian-cuisine.html Pam Robson 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,090 Report post Posted January 3, 2021 It might seem a odd question,like I read on here all the critics of the tab but I doubt anyone else has an alternative,would an overseas company buy into the nz setup,maybe they would but it would be on their terms with nz being the big losers here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,135 Report post Posted January 3, 2021 32 minutes ago, mikenz said: It might seem a odd question,like I read on here all the critics of the tab but I doubt anyone else has an alternative,would an overseas company buy into the nz setup,maybe they would but it would be on their terms with nz being the big losers here. You post a lot of rubbish both here and elsewhere but this just about the best for some time. It is an odd question as didn't the TAB distribute 159 mio to the codes last season The current Labour mob won't sell anything in case you have lived in a cave for last 9 decades Half yearly NZTAB results will be out at some point in Feb. I'm picking a good result that is well in advance of budget If true you and the other naysayers will have a lot of egg on.your face. napier and TurnyTom 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,090 Report post Posted January 3, 2021 36 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: You post a lot of rubbish both here and elsewhere but this just about the best for some time. It is an odd question as didn't the TAB distribute 159 mio to the codes last season The current Labour mob won't sell anything in case you have lived in a cave for last 9 decades Half yearly NZTAB results will be out at some point in Feb. I'm picking a good result that is well in advance of budget If true you and the other naysayers will have a lot of egg on.your face. Were they not given a bailout,on one hand they were being bailed out on another doing well,strange,I'm certainly not anti them they make mistakes like the rest of us but had Winnie said no and many were not happy bailing out a gambling organisation what would have been the scenario. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick 23 Report post Posted January 3, 2021 Gee you are never anywhere near the facts.Do you live in a cave and occasionally come out and post. I have read many a poster over the years but your idiotic posts take the cake for the dumbest drivel.Go away. Chris Wood, JJ Flash, soliloquy and 2 others 3 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_gee 416 Report post Posted January 3, 2021 3 hours ago, mikenz said: It might seem a odd question,like I read on here all the critics of the tab but I doubt anyone else has an alternative,would an overseas company buy into the nz setup,maybe they would but it would be on their terms with nz being the big losers here. ask yourself this what would tab look like if it had competition ? also be better quality tv coverage if we got aussie to take it over you cant even get presenters tips on tab site let alone 1 on track Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,558 Report post Posted January 3, 2021 4 hours ago, LightsOut said: Match racing every runner puts in an amount eg $500 either winner takes all or split on placed. If you want to race for big money you go overseas. Either that to make money from horses open a restaurant. https://gordon-ramsay-recipe.com/recipes-of-italian-cuisine/22-ways-to-cook-horse-meat-italian-cuisine.html That's enough to give you the trots LightsOut 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,135 Report post Posted January 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Shad said: That's enough to give you the trots Thats his limit Shad 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey 2,037 Report post Posted January 3, 2021 16 hours ago, JJ Flash said: You post a lot of rubbish both here and elsewhere but this just about the best for some time. It is an odd question as didn't the TAB distribute 159 mio to the codes last season The current Labour mob won't sell anything in case you have lived in a cave for last 9 decades Half yearly NZTAB results will be out at some point in Feb. I'm picking a good result that is well in advance of budget If true you and the other naysayers will have a lot of egg on.your face. C'mon JJ, they have only done what the industry has been screaming at them to do for years (hats off for at least doing that) namely cutting costs. They have benefited greatly from the Covid situation in most aspects of the business. If they can't make that work we are really stuffed. Comparing the next year (Betting) after this one will be the make the more interesting comparison imo Dissident 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,135 Report post Posted January 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Huey said: C'mon JJ, they have only done what the industry has been screaming at them to do for years (hats off for at least doing that) namely cutting costs. My point and i will make it once again the current board inherited a total nightmare. A 50 mio site which they cant change or get out of for 10 years. A previous Management group and board who increased operating costs. Not to mention a debt load that required immediate injection by Winnie and co As you say the current lot have done what the previous lot should have done- CUT COSTs and introduced a new business plan which i think will assist bottom line . This in turn means higher returns to owners via Racing NZ board distributions Lets see what the half year/annual results are like because ultimately thats what the current board are going to be judged on. Huey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightsOut 486 Report post Posted January 4, 2021 Quote As you say the current lot have done what the previous lot should have done- CUT COSTs and introduced a new business plan which i think will assist bottom line Covid made them get their arses into gear prior to Covid they did stuff all. TurnyTom, Huey, shaneMcAlister and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,135 Report post Posted January 4, 2021 54 minutes ago, LightsOut said: Covid made them get their arses into gear prior to Covid they did stuff I think we'll know your negative opinion.of TAB and the rubbish you continually post In case your blind which is a possibility Glenda and John have departed a year ago What would you have to moan about if it went under??. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightsOut 486 Report post Posted January 4, 2021 Quote What would you have to moan about if it went under??. Ha rubbish I post, the results are there if anyone with a half a brain can clearly see. Give me one positive thing they did prior to Covid? Ha they increased the o/d to $40 million - real positive trading of a Company well in the crap. Quote TAB NZ is only able to access the Crown grant for permitted purposes and must validate each funding request with evidence. The Department assesses each funding request and releases funds if it is satisfied conditions have been met. A more formal and longer-term monitoring arrangement may also need to be considered depending on the outcome of recapitalisation work .You really think they are going that well they have their hands ties and the Minuister has been advised that more money will be needed to prop them up. And in case you are a bit slow there are plenty of people who have zero faith in the current management as the above quote re performance monitoring would suggest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,135 Report post Posted January 4, 2021 11 hours ago, LightsOut said: Ha rubbish I post, the results are there if anyone with a half a brain can clearly see. Give me one positive thing they did prior to Covid? Ha they increased the o/d to $40 million - real positive trading of a Company well in the crap. .You really think they are going that well they have their hands ties and the Minuister has been advised that more money will be needed to prop them up. And in case you are a bit slow there are plenty of people who have zero faith in the current management as the above quote re performance monitoring would suggest. Speaking of results. How many questions were asked in Parliament when last RITA accounts were tabled. None. New team new game. As for your covid stuff. Wasn't a new Racing Act in formation which was the Ministers priority given Messarra report. 300 less staff are now employed and some drastic action taken in other areas The current board will as I've sail before be judged on results. Even if good you'll find something to moan about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightsOut 486 Report post Posted January 4, 2021 Quote 300 less staff are now employed and some drastic action taken in other areas Yes and as I have said it took Covid to do it. They were broke believe it or not but Covid actually helped them out. Quote Even if good you'll find something to moan about. Maybe if the clowns actually listened to their customers there might be a lot less to moan about. Here they are pleading with customers to come back and bet with us but have they actually bothered to ask them why they deserted them. They need too be told because they are obviously too thick to work it out for themselves. Most Companies ask customers why they have taken their business elsewhere but not this one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_gee 416 Report post Posted January 4, 2021 23 hours ago, JJ Flash said: My point and i will make it once again the current board inherited a total nightmare. A 50 mio site which they cant change or get out of for 10 years. A previous Management group and board who increased operating costs. Not to mention a debt load that required immediate injection by Winnie and co As you say the current lot have done what the previous lot should have done- CUT COSTs and introduced a new business plan which i think will assist bottom line . This in turn means higher returns to owners via Racing NZ board distributions Lets see what the half year/annual results are like because ultimately thats what the current board are going to be judged on. lets look your point johns report created it gave them the funding gave them all the policy's and they employed mckenzie ( who then had the choice of all his mates ( not to metion there huge $ pay packets so they run then just before lockdown dean parted ways so i ask what have they had to do to create this and like a labour government they rather have it reviewed pay people on high dollars and not change a flippen thing have they really changed anything outside the joh m findings no will b the answer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,135 Report post Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, mr_gee said: lets look your point johns report created it gave them the funding gave them all the policy's and they employed mckenzie ( who then had the choice of all his mates ( not to metion there huge $ pay packets so they run then just before lockdown dean parted ways so i ask what have they had to do to create this and like a labour government they rather have it reviewed pay people on high dollars and not change a flippen thing have they really changed anything outside the joh m findings no will b the answer Can you post it in English that i or others can understand. Ive read you post 5 times and sorry but have no idea what you are on about Huey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,135 Report post Posted January 5, 2021 4 hours ago, LightsOut said: Here they are pleading with customers to come back and bet with us A very good marketing strategy by the new team IMHO. As i have posted elsewhere i reactivated my account and have given Oz accounts the swerve as NZTAB have improved offerings and are competitive with their bonus bets and other promos. Pricing is very good as well on F/O s. Also, as the promo says money spent locally goes back to locals be it sports or racing. Naturally there will be some like yourself who obviously wont ever deal with NZTAB given your constant moaning on here about them. That's entirely your choice as you have other options open to you offshore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted January 5, 2021 The TAB don’t help themselves at times . New Year’s Day at Hastings their was a very healthy crowd considering it was a 6 race card . Like many I expected the TAB and big screen to stay operational so we could carry on betting and watching the Ellerslie races unfold . But no the TAB couldn’t close everything down fast enough which also included the bar staff . You had a captive audience on track and they were treated like crap . Another missed opportunity and many left pissed off . Aaron Bidlake and dock leaf 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Bidlake 760 Report post Posted January 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, puha said: The TAB don’t help themselves at times . New Year’s Day at Hastings their was a very healthy crowd considering it was a 6 race card . Like many I expected the TAB and big screen to stay operational so we could carry on betting and watching the Ellerslie races unfold . But no the TAB couldn’t close everything down fast enough which also included the bar staff . You had a captive audience on track and they were treated like crap . Another missed opportunity and many left pissed off . I can never understand racing clubs doing this, basically the last horse on track crosses the line and things shut down. ivanthegreat, JJ Flash and puha 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey 2,037 Report post Posted January 5, 2021 20 minutes ago, puha said: The TAB don’t help themselves at times . New Year’s Day at Hastings their was a very healthy crowd considering it was a 6 race card . Like many I expected the TAB and big screen to stay operational so we could carry on betting and watching the Ellerslie races unfold . But no the TAB couldn’t close everything down fast enough which also included the bar staff . You had a captive audience on track and they were treated like crap . Another missed opportunity and many left pissed off . Wouldn't that have more to do with the club than the TAB? JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted January 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Huey said: Wouldn't that have more to do with the club than the TAB? Bars maybe but it’s the TAB that decided to close down all the betting facilities and turn off the big screen .The club would of been peeved I would say.Why the club and TAB couldn’t organise to keep everything functional till the last in Auckland is beyond me . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 3,605 Report post Posted January 5, 2021 Who ever was at fault for this decision , it shows yet again poor business acumen . As well as showing scant regard for their customer base . Every corner of racing needs to be trying to garner every dollar possible . If it was the TAB's decision then again it is just symptomatic of their lack of understanding on how to optimize their business . On one hand they are asking us all to bet with them and them alone yet are denying punters the opportunity to do just that , one hand not talking to the other . Or just lazy . puha 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,135 Report post Posted January 5, 2021 16 minutes ago, Aaron Bidlake said: I can never understand racing clubs doing this, basically the last horse on track crosses the line and things shut down. As you say - its the clubs that close things down ,not the TAB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...