Tauhei Notts 1,409 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 I note that a $50,000 R65 1200 metre race cannot attract a full field; but two days later, at the Te Aroha go rounds, a R65 $10,000 race will have horses balloted out. Within a month trainers will suggest that I take a share in a yearling. Do no waste your time and, more importantly, do not waste mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_gee 416 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, Tauhei Notts said: I note that a $50,000 R65 1200 metre race cannot attract a full field; but two days later, at the Te Aroha go rounds, a R65 $10,000 race will have horses balloted out. Within a month trainers will suggest that I take a share in a yearling. Do no waste your time and, more importantly, do not waste mine. go to aussie lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhei Notts 1,409 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 I note that Omoto and Reefton both have prize money for the 13th and 14th horses. When ever did they expand their 12 horse starting gates? JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,554 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 Hopefully they get plenty of horses, looks like the Tyler's staying at home, will be hoping the Myers team are attending. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam Robson 1,547 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Tauhei Notts said: I note that Omoto and Reefton both have prize money for the 13th and 14th horses. When ever did they expand their 12 horse starting gates? Shhh. Baz (NZ) and Insider 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,993 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 I will believe Bernard Saundry's optimistic drivel when our midweek stakes match Australian Maiden Stakes. Patiti, Insider and Baz (NZ) 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 Don’t you think Saundry inherited a mess? Chris Wood 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,554 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 Certainly are good stakes in the lucky country, but given the class of some of our horses, they may battle to win them, I did see where guns ablazing won his second race over there, raced by yargi, was bought out of Southland after 1 start for a 5th by raise the flag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
napier 339 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 He has not helped it if he did IMO Insider, Huey, Pam Robson and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,076 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Pam Robson said: Shhh. Can I hop on the pony, canter round behind them and collect the 200 bucks? Pam Robson 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Shad said: Hopefully they get plenty of horses, looks like the Tyler's staying at home, will be hoping the Myers team are attending. Bit of rain by looks of it leading into Monday but Omoto drains ok. Pitman yard miss Omoto , Tyler usually has plenty so thats a shame , if Clotworthy and few others don't bother now 3 meetings on Coast , Omoto i fear might be thin . A shame as three cracking days there last year . Stammers must send his usual suspects or it's not the Coast without them. Hope Myers sends his usual big team as been trying to get a line on his likely candidates up North , Mondarani and Fisherman's Bridge I'd be interested in if they front up in something. Shad 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey 2,037 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 16 hours ago, napier said: He has not helped it if he did IMO made it worse napier 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 On 12/29/2020 at 4:23 PM, Shad said: Hopefully they get plenty of horses, looks like the Tyler's staying at home, will be hoping the Myers team are attending. 17 in from Myers yard Monday , decent enough noms . That Fishermans Blue in over 2000, Green Dispatch normally goes out hard so will stretch field out for a fit Myers horses to run over top . Shad 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
napier 339 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Red Rum said: 17 in from Myers yard Monday , decent enough noms . That Fishermans Blue in over 2000, Green Dispatch normally goes out hard so will stretch field out for a fit Myers horses to run over top . Would you like to be paying the training fees for Green Dispatch ?....absolute joke imo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, napier said: Would you like to be paying the training fees for Green Dispatch ?....absolute joke imo One word answer " absolutely not " but if I had the time in retirement he would be a good one to give a retirement home to , French Derby place getter, closest I'd get to one . He will try blaze a trail around Omoto I reckon then implode off the turn .He has shown flashes at times last few months but never going to recoup fees IMHO. These HK rejects seem to pop up more and more , some going OK. I am convinced Pakistan Star would clean up here if he went to couple yards up North who really get them sweetened up . There are 3 ex HK runners in on New Years Day I think at Ellerslie . That Royal Performer looked in good heart last time under an awesome ride by Pinn. napier 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,993 Report post Posted January 7, 2021 Tomorrow at Ellerslie they are running two Maiden 1600m races for stakes of $10,000. Bernard Saundry should be hangng his head in shame. Surely NZ's premier venue can do better than this at a Saturday meeting? I would say the ARC will spend more than that amount on beverages and food for the freeloaders attending tomorrow. Huey and dock leaf 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingshill 233 Report post Posted January 7, 2021 You'd like to think that a maiden race at Ellerslie on a Weekend/Public holiday/Premier meeting would be worth at least $20k Huey and gubellini 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,076 Report post Posted January 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, Kingshill said: You'd like to think that a maiden race at Ellerslie on a Weekend/Public holiday/Premier meeting would be worth at least $20k How would you pay for that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,993 Report post Posted January 7, 2021 Leggy NZTR are bereft of ideas when it comes to finding new income streams other than from gaming and betting. Stallion levies and levies on exported horses could be looked at but under the present regime these areas appear to be sacrosanct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,993 Report post Posted January 7, 2021 Leggy the European Breeders' Fund has been running for 37 years. It raises around 5 million euros annually most of which is paid directly into stakes. No reason we couldn't have a modified similar scheme here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,076 Report post Posted January 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, gubellini said: Leggy NZTR are bereft of ideas when it comes to finding new income streams other than from gaming and betting. Stallion levies and levies on exported horses could be looked at but under the present regime these areas appear to be sacrosanct. Gubes, I don't really see why the breeding/stallion/export industries should be funding domestic racing events. Nor that the gaming industry should be for that matter. They need to stand on their own feet imo. And that probably means lowering not raising stakes, so the stakes are aligned with the earnings from the events. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,076 Report post Posted January 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, gubellini said: Leggy the European Breeders' Fund has been running for 37 years. It raises around 5 million euros annually most of which is paid directly into stakes. No reason we couldn't have a modified similar scheme here. The EBF funds only specific races deemed important to breeders doesn't it? Not contribute to the broad range of domestic racing stakes. I don't have a problem with that if that's what breeders want to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Leggy said: The EBF funds only specific races deemed important to breeders doesn't it? Not contribute to the broad range of domestic racing stakes. I don't have a problem with that if that's what breeders want to do. There are plenty of EBF maiden stakes , was last time I really checked out race names . Normally a sponsor then EBF add their bit in . gubellini 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Leggy said: The EBF funds only specific races deemed important to breeders doesn't it? Not contribute to the broad range of domestic racing stakes. I don't have a problem with that if that's what breeders want to do. Next few days in UK and Ire EBF maiden hurdle , Novice Chase , Bumper and Beginners Chase . gubellini 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted January 7, 2021 2 hours ago, gubellini said: Leggy the European Breeders' Fund has been running for 37 years. It raises around 5 million euros annually most of which is paid directly into stakes. No reason we couldn't have a modified similar scheme here. Some say that NZ Breeders wield a strong influence on NZ Racing. If so, don’t expect to see a breeding levy to fund stakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...