We're Doomed 4,824 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 No one seems to have noticed the HB New Years meeting in trouble. 58 noms for the entire programme. They have left open races with 3 and 4 noms. In the SI they would instantly delete those races because of insufficient interest. Seems to be different rules for the NI. That meeting has always struggled for horses and yet nothing has ever been done about it. Waikouaiti got moved off NY's day, perhaps HB should be next to go. THE TORCH, napier, elbow and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike28 182 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 there are some very light fields there some with only 4 or 5 noms per race Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,874 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 NZTR is saying that if they don’t get more nominations the meeting won’t go ahead. How many more do they need for it to proceed? It reminds me of the Health Inspector arriving at Bart Cummings training establishment, then proceeding to tell Bart that he had too many flies at which Bart asked; “how many am I allowed?” With regard to HB I guess we wait until tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,824 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 Only about 50 horses nominated. 7 or 8 are in two races, one in 3 races. Even the 3 and 4 horse fields have one horse nominated in both. It's a pity more can't be done to attract horses to meetings that get a large public turnout. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,070 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 This has been happening for a while now,small fields and this is the time the product needs to be good,3 meetings in cd in 4 days,is that necessary? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,070 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 Just to add,this is a situation where maybe dual code meetings would be a option. Just to add,Tauranga and Thames following Rotorua,maybe a bit of overkill Blue 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,070 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 2 hours ago, We're Doomed said: No one seems to have noticed the HB New Years meeting in trouble. 58 noms for the entire programme. They have left open races with 3 and 4 noms. In the SI they would instantly delete those races because of insufficient interest. Seems to be different rules for the NI. That meeting has always struggled for horses and yet nothing has ever been done about it. Waikouaiti got moved off NY's day, perhaps HB should be next to go. Thinking the same,wait till ,Wairarapa maybe each is cancelling the other one out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneasy 497 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 You’re right I understand open 1200 at Riverton deleted with 5 noms (3 dual noms) but should have been at least given a chance!! We're Doomed 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stodge 1,912 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 What's the nature of the problem? Is there too much racing for the horse population at this time of year? The ground is a Dead 5 so shouldn't be an issue. Is it a quality vs quantity question? Given there are many more slow horses than fast ones, races for slow horses should attract more entries. The problem is punters don't just want wide-open low-grade handicaps. There has to be some variety and if that means a 3-runner race, doesn't mean it can't be interesting. Is the problem one of race planning - too many of the same kind of race in the same region - I see NZ runs three meetings only rarely and perhaps it can only really sustain two on any day? Breeder 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_gee 409 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 yup they have been light the last couple years Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,070 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 8 hours ago, uneasy said: You’re right I understand open 1200 at Riverton deleted with 5 noms (3 dual noms) but should have been at least given a chance!! Riverton may still get the 9 races judging by noms for some races. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,824 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 46 minutes ago, mikenz said: Riverton may still get the 9 races judging by noms for some races. Riverton has enough horses for ten races. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,824 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, mr_gee said: yup they have been light the last couple years It has been light for the last 10 years at least. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,824 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 8 hours ago, uneasy said: You’re right I understand open 1200 at Riverton deleted with 5 noms (3 dual noms) but should have been at least given a chance!! And Kurow had a race deleted as well. A couple of weeks ago a race with 6 initial noms was warned it would need more noms to go ahead. I think it is totally safe to say that any race in the SI with 3 or 4 noms would be deleted instantly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,070 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 Wairarapa noms close about now,be interesting to see how they stack up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
army 156 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 14 hours ago, mikenz said: Just to add,this is a situation where maybe dual code meetings would be a option. Just to add,Tauranga and Thames following Rotorua,maybe a bit of overkill Exactlley with Taupo as well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckenzie 600 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 7 races at NP today. 6 races at Hastings. Makes you nostalgic for the days of 10 races and decent sized fields. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,923 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 Tauranga Saturday 4 nominated for the Open 1400m; 5 nominated for the R74 2100m; 5 nominated for the R65 1400m; 7 nominated for the R74 1200m. Disastrous numbers for tote turnovers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,070 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, gubellini said: Tauranga Saturday 4 nominated for the Open 1400m; 5 nominated for the R74 2100m; 5 nominated for the R65 1400m; 7 nominated for the R74 1200m. Disastrous numbers for tote turnovers. Best thing is to reduce meetings,ok after Tauranga is Thames ,any idea how they are shaping? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,923 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 mikenz Thames race at Te Aroha on Sunday. 198 nominations for the 8 races. Unless they split some of the Maiden races some horses will miss a start. Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,070 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 33 minutes ago, gubellini said: mikenz Thames race at Te Aroha on Sunday. 198 nominations for the 8 races. Unless they split some of the Maiden races some horses will miss a start. So just looking at Tauranga and Hastings dump those meetings,shift Wairarapa to Jan 1,shift Taranaki back to one day,leave Thames as they are,simple.and by getting riddof Tauranga it will probably increase numbers for Taupo,a popular holiday spot,Tauranga and Hastings run a lot of good meetings,reducing them by one won't hurt them at all,they have other days to shine in the sun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,070 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 6races at Wairarapa and,that's 6at Hastings as well,might makes sense to just have one good one,what do others reckon? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey 2,037 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 14 hours ago, mikenz said: So just looking at Tauranga and Hastings dump those meetings,shift Wairarapa to Jan 1,shift Taranaki back to one day,leave Thames as they are,simple.and by getting riddof Tauranga it will probably increase numbers for Taupo,a popular holiday spot,Tauranga and Hastings run a lot of good meetings,reducing them by one won't hurt them at all,they have other days to shine in the sun A lot of what you say will happen generically the way the industry is being operated, at any rate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,070 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, mikenz said: 6races at Wairarapa and,that's 6at Hastings as well,might makes sense to just have one good one,what do others reckon? Incedently 5 trotting races as well,so this is another option,cd area needs more harness racing Taranaki the other day could have also,run some harness,would be interesting though to see how numbers stacked up,Cambridge raced yesty but the litmus test would be would the harness guys go on the road trip,contrary to what the suits think I actually think some like the odd road trip,it's a bit of variety. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,923 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 Tauranga must have reopened noms. Better sized fields now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...