eljay 1,711 Report post Posted December 5, 2020 Still multiple cases reported each day which the border control appears to be coping with BUT surely all who wanted to return must be back so - especially with the Vaccine supposedly being available from March, why doesn't the government close the borders except for essential circumstances until such time that the virus has or is being utilised. Only 3 months if we can believe what we are told. This would surely save the taxpayer a fortune. This would also give the so called experts time to formulate a plan to be introduced once the vaccine is available. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,683 Report post Posted December 5, 2020 50 minutes ago, eljay said: Still multiple cases reported each day which the border control appears to be coping with BUT surely all who wanted to return must be back so - especially with the Vaccine supposedly being available from March, why doesn't the government close the borders except for essential circumstances until such time that the virus has or is being utilised. Only 3 months if we can believe what we are told. This would surely save the taxpayer a fortune. This would also give the so called experts time to formulate a plan to be introduced once the vaccine is available. Yep, hundreds of cases in managed isolation since "managed hotel tourism" began months ago and just remind me how many of them have died, or even been committed to ICU, from this DEADLY virus. Gruff, meomy and Huey 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,459 Report post Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/5/2020 at 3:13 PM, chevy86 said: Yep, hundreds of cases in managed isolation since "managed hotel tourism" began months ago and just remind me how many of them have died, or even been committed to ICU, from this DEADLY virus. It's because of the actions taken we don't have bad statistics. Like America with over 200,000 cases per day and over 2,000 deaths per day, and the worst for them is still to come with winter, thanksgiving, Xmas, New Year,......and a leader in denial. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted December 9, 2020 7 hours ago, Idolmite said: It's because of the actions taken we don't have bad statistics. Like America with over 200,000 cases per day and over 2,000 deaths per day, and the worst for them is still to come with winter, thanksgiving, Xmas, New Year,......and a leader in denial. You taking the piss? Theres enough good information on here to sink a battleship and you dont even know what Covid 19 is Dissapointing ,this translates to ignorance, its bliss but doesnt end well. Huey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,459 Report post Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Gruff said: You taking the piss? Theres enough good information on here to sink a battleship and you dont even know what Covid 19 is Dissapointing ,this translates to ignorance, its bliss but doesnt end well. Are you taking the piss? Oh yeah, of course Race Cafe is where I go for all of my political news and medical information, written by strangers on the internet. soliloquy and Gruff 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted December 9, 2020 8 hours ago, Idolmite said: Are you taking the piss? Oh yeah, of course Race Cafe is where I go for all of my political news and medical information, written by strangers on the internet. You shouldnt need to, if you dont know anything about the most significant ‘Disease’ in 100 years after it locked Up the World you better start doing your own research .... only problem there of course is you become a conspiracy theorist Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,683 Report post Posted December 9, 2020 18 hours ago, Idolmite said: It's because of the actions taken we don't have bad statistics. Like America with over 200,000 cases per day and over 2,000 deaths per day, and the worst for them is still to come with winter, thanksgiving, Xmas, New Year,......and a leader in denial. What "actions". You miss the point. ALL of our border quarantine infections have survived an untreatable virus that is supposed to be catastrophically deadly! Even your US figures are well under 1% mortality and probably 10x that number of cases circulating when young, symptomless people factored in. meomy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,459 Report post Posted December 9, 2020 3 hours ago, chevy86 said: What "actions". You miss the point. ALL of our border quarantine infections have survived an untreatable virus that is supposed to be catastrophically deadly! Even your US figures are well under 1% mortality and probably 10x that number of cases circulating when young, symptomless people factored in. And we're living basically normal lives in restaurants and bars, at movies and sporting events, whereas much of the rest of the world either isn't, or has either stringent restrictions or restrictions that change up and down as regularly as you change your underpants, all because of the way we handled it here. What would you have them do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted December 9, 2020 35 minutes ago, Idolmite said: And we're living basically normal lives in restaurants and bars, at movies and sporting events, whereas much of the rest of the world either isn't, or has either stringent restrictions or restrictions that change up and down as regularly as you change your underpants, all because of the way we handled it here. What would you have them do? Handled what? You are missing the point, this is a highly contagious deadly virus that has been badly managed from border to so called quarantine...Where are the deaths? There has been thousands of so called Sars cov2 positive PCRs yet we have had very few deaths.... you putting this down to Adern? Get serious Mighty please meomy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted December 9, 2020 After peoples adverse reactions and contradictions due to the large amount of different pharmaceutical drugs people are on in the UK im sure this Pfizer ‘concoction will create plenty of negative feedback... and we are hearing now people are being advised to lay off the booze for months so a Novel vaccine for a mutating virus can do its job whatever that amounts to This was suppose to be tested on tens of thousands before release to the unsuspecting British public...Boris what have you done Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted December 9, 2020 I subscribe to the New England medical journal and last week they received a study on Hydroxychloroquine verses 3 other drugs for the treatment of Covid 19, problem here is the Hydroxy works in combination with zinc which it assists in entering the ‘infected cell , supplemented with other vitamins....cant see what they were trying to show here, or more to the point why they chose to treat people with something that wasnt reccomended by the Chinese experts who used it effectively in Wuhan, this reccomendation was taken up by Doctors in some Central American Countries with success. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted December 9, 2020 ...... On 12/5/2020 at 2:23 PM, eljay said: Still multiple cases reported each day which the border control appears to be coping with BUT surely all who wanted to return must be back so - especially with the Vaccine supposedly being available from March, why doesn't the government close the borders except for essential circumstances until such time that the virus has or is being utilised. Only 3 months if we can believe what we are told. This would surely save the taxpayer a fortune. This would also give the so called experts time to formulate a plan to be introduced once the vaccine is available. By the way Eljay a positive PCR test is for Sars Cov2 not Covid19...so they say Watch the Kary Mullis video... understand what they are supposed to be detecting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,711 Report post Posted December 21, 2020 With new strain in UK (and outbreak in Sydney) should we temporarily close our borders from these places - say 2 or 3 weeks - till the "heat blows over" ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted December 21, 2020 3 hours ago, eljay said: With new strain in UK (and outbreak in Sydney) should we temporarily close our borders from these places - say 2 or 3 weeks - till the "heat blows over" ? Whats a new Strain Eljay? From the time the Chinese supposedly discovered the genomic sequence in january to the Canadians in Februaruy to the texan lab later that month what more could you expect? If you believe in the germ theory RNA viruses mutate ... as they have for millenia.... and why would they need to ‘normally ‘ without interference from Science $$$$$$$ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,711 Report post Posted December 21, 2020 Oh Gruff - you just too educated for me. All I know is what the learned & qualified ones tell us. Ohokaman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted December 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, eljay said: Oh Gruff - you just too educated for me. All I know is what the learned & qualified ones tell us. Eljay all of this information is available for all to see, problem is people are lazy and believe everything they hear. I have more time than most and have Zero stress and dont like seeing people rorted... and they are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,711 Report post Posted December 21, 2020 I know - that why I saw it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,683 Report post Posted January 20, 2021 On 12/5/2020 at 3:13 PM, chevy86 said: Yep, hundreds of cases in managed isolation since "managed hotel tourism" began months ago and just remind me how many of them have died, or even been committed to ICU, from this DEADLY virus. Covid positives, several being the new "more deadly" variant, running at 5-6 per day in MIQ and still no deaths for months at the hands of this Deadly virus. Certainly not wishing that to happen but either we have the greatest medical facilities in the world (wouldn't be able to confirm as none of these positives hospitalised) or we are being lied to about the danger. Marxist control at it's finest. 100 1 and Gruff 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted January 20, 2021 Why would you need to be told by someone who has a heavy vested interest in Vaccines to Vaccinate ‘her’ flock Particularly given no vaccine had been found to be effective ( still true today ) at the time..... This is the End of Gates self perscribed ‘Decade of Vaccines’ so this wasnt something that was developed overnight out of sheer necessity and given this wont be going away a huge amount of money is going to be wasted annually vaccinating an already heavily vaccinated population with all sorts of different vaccines for the Same Virus ( how is that even possible )when NONE have ever been developed that didnt Kill when tested related to Sars...theres CLAIMS made these vaccines have an impact on the reproductive organs ,so if your forced into having one get written assurance it wont harm your health .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,683 Report post Posted January 21, 2021 36 cases of the highly contagious, dangerous variant of Covid-19 in MIQ at the moment and still no sufferers dying, let alone being hospitalised!! Surely we are not being lied to? Perhaps Ardern too busy with the catastrophic Wiggles dilemma. Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,711 Report post Posted January 21, 2021 First planeload of travellers who not being isolated arrived from the Cooks yesterday. Is this the slight opportunity the virus requires? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, eljay said: First planeload of travellers who not being isolated arrived from the Cooks yesterday. Is this the slight opportunity the virus requires? Eljay. All this ‘Virus’ gets is Oppurtunity particularly here, to suggest our Quarantine and isolation protocol is inept is an understatement, i personally know someone who was asked in Auckland after delivering food to come inside to sign it off Where are the COVID cases and Death from the large numbers of positive Sars cov 2 tests recorded ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted January 25, 2021 Posted December 9, 2020 On 12/5/2020 at 3:13 PM, chevy86 said: Yep, hundreds of cases in managed isolation since "managed hotel tourism" began months ago and just remind me how many of them have died, or even been committed to ICU, from this DEADLY virus. It's because of the actions taken we don't have bad statistics. Like America with over 200,000 cases per day and over 2,000 deaths per day, and the worst for them is still to come with winter, thanksgiving, Xmas, New Year,......and a leader in denial. Quote ........ its because of the actions we have taken ... Sorry Mighty youve been proven wrong what actions? What Covid ? Nothings changed in managed isolation because the braindead have stuck with inept protocol which has just created severe stress between South Head and Whangarei ( at least) which compromises the immune System . Circus.... Larry King was walking dead before he died WITH a positive PCR , walked out of the Hospital after beating it then got immunised.. Wake up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...