hsvman 294 Report post Posted November 26, 2020 The trouble is hrnz for years have always let people offĀ very lightly Ā positive swabs and all sorts Ā of other stuff get basically slapped with a wet bus ticket and pretty much left to carry on business as usual .Ā We need our racing industry to be clean AndĀ Ā to have a very tough stance on corruption andĀ Ā criminalĀ Ā activity , it should beĀ that you get one chance and when you ruin that chance your gone from the game for good.Ā JTeaz, JJ Flash and dock leaf 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillsnspills 36 Report post Posted November 26, 2020 The trouble is we seem to take a age to get a verdict long after the offence has been committed . As for beating up females in time not so long ago they would be taken around the back and have yourĀ collar straightenedĀ if you get my drift , But then look at a few years ago that similar age guy smacked that police woman and as his father well know in wine industry has a lawyer that gets him off that now tells us where society has now gone.Ā GUTLESS governments both National and labourĀ Iraklis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,203 Report post Posted November 27, 2020 Hey JJ mate I messaged you privately few days ago when I first noticed Kerr postĀ missin, yup,Ā it is long gone, dunno why huh? Ā Cheers Iraklis JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,114 Report post Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Iraklis said: Hey JJ mate I messaged you privately few days ago when I first noticed Kerr postĀ missin, yup,Ā it is long gone, dunno why huh? Ā Cheers Iraklis Just had a look in my inbox- nothing there from you I man Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockers 200 Report post Posted November 27, 2020 9 hours ago, JJ Flash said: Am i missing something here or has the M Kerr post been removed. This chap who associates with Anderson is in whole heap of trouble. One of his previous owners was telling me the Feds are interviewing some of his owners next week. Others are talking civil action. One wonders what HRNZ and or RIU can do once he conveniently handedĀ in his licenses and he is not alone with this type of behavior. Is it time for regs if they are not their already to purge the sport of all the baddies who run for coverĀ We may have been censored JJ. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navitas 108 Report post Posted November 27, 2020 11 hours ago, Iraklis said: Agree Navi, Judges do 'consider' precedent when making their decisions, but disagree that the law works on precedent alone;Ā it does involve the Judge's own discretion as well.... Ā Cheers Iraklis I take your point Iraklis, but I didn't intend to intimateĀ they follow precedent alone. Judges can and do use discretion. I just wish whenĀ using that discretion, they didn't give discounts to crims for things like, it's aĀ first offence, a custodial sentence will prevent me playing sport overseas, or my Dad was a drunk & my MumĀ didn't love me....Ā Should have considered all of this before committing the offence!!! JJ Flash and Iraklis 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,203 Report post Posted November 27, 2020 Oh true JJ mate, ah dunno what the haps is there, I'll send again I mightve stuffed itĀ Ā Cheers Iraklis JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastwood Jaunty 148 Report post Posted November 27, 2020 On 11/26/2020 at 2:27 PM, JJ Flash said: Am i missing something here or has the M Kerr post been removed. This chap who associates with Anderson is in whole heap of trouble. One of his previous owners was telling me the Feds are interviewing some of his owners next week. Others are talking civil action. One wonders what HRNZ and or RIU can do once he conveniently handedĀ in his licenses and he is not alone with this type of behavior. Is it time for regs if they are not their already to purge the sport of all the baddies who run for coverĀ Ā The matter is slowly working itself into the public domain:Ā https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/racing/123515144/rising-harness-racing-trainer-quits-as-concerns-sent-to-police JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJESTIC 179 Report post Posted January 28, 2021 What bullshit am I reading in todays edition of the Christchurch Star regarding former HRNZ chairman Ken Spicer and old Peter Jones meeting with new HRNZ CEO Gary Woodham discussing Andersons future. His only future is being as far away from Harness Racing activity as possible, behind bars, keys thrown away. He is the lowest of lowest with what he has done !!! napier, Keneperu and TurnyTom 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,114 Report post Posted January 28, 2021 8 hours ago, MAJESTIC said: What bullshit am I reading in todays edition of the Christchurch Star regarding former HRNZ chairman Ken Spicer and old Peter Jones meeting with new HRNZ CEO Gary Woodham discussing Andersons future. His only future is being as far away from Harness Racing activity as possible, behind bars, keys thrown away. He is the lowest of lowest with what he has done !!! Someone mentioned it at local last night. MVB has also been busy on the topic with a similar article re Anderson.Ā I have not seen eitherĀ so can't comment but if you say Spicer isĀ involved then alarm bells should be ringing. Who could forget his NM support comments when chair of HRNZĀ napier, chelseacol and Keneperu 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,114 Report post Posted January 29, 2021 I'm wondering how this so called informal meeting between named parties got to these journalists. Whose spilling the beans and for what purpose?. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongOwner 217 Report post Posted January 29, 2021 45 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: I'm wondering how this so called informal meeting between named parties got to these journalists. Whose spilling the beans and for what purpose?. I think you will find it is an insider jealous person(s) with association or part of the gypsy training group who have not worked out there are better drivers and trainers than themselves . There is a trainer will a hot line to the RIU & MVB who is on a personal crusade to put everyone down who are high performers in the sport. Jealous witch hunt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,114 Report post Posted February 3, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 12:15 PM, LongOwner said: I think you will find it is an insider jealous person(s) with association or part of the gypsy training group who have not worked out there are better drivers and trainers than themselves . There is a trainer will a hot line to the RIU & MVB who is on a personal crusade to put everyone down who are high performers in the sport. Jealous witch hunt. Thanks Martin but its the Star articles by this chap Clark that are more targeted IMHO.Ā Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45yearsofharness 173 Report post Posted February 7, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 12:15 PM, LongOwner said: I think you will find it is an insider jealous person(s) with association or part of the gypsy training group who have not worked out there are better drivers and trainers than themselves . There is a trainer will a hot line to the RIU & MVB who is on a personal crusade to put everyone down who are high performers in the sport. Jealous witch hunt. Or maybe they are on a "which hunt" to keep the game clean! Pegasus 9 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Piper 404 Report post Posted February 7, 2021 On 11/26/2020 at 9:32 PM, MAJESTIC said: When his term of suspension ceases on Feb 1st Harness Racing NZ needs to grow balls step up and ban this F... Wit from the industry for life. He is a convicted criminal isn't he.Ā Yes, he is ; but if you look at precedence , he can argue that HRNZ have let a convicted murderer have a trainers licenceĀ in the past ( after the act and release from sentence ). JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...