nomates 3,453 Report post Posted November 1, 2020 5 hours ago, mikenz said: It's a shame that the trainers dont ride,but gee how hard being a trainer,doing all the prep and then having someone on who dont do the job very well.probably happens everyday in every race,but re your comment regarding the best riders that's why they are the best,experience is the key. Clarry Conners once said in an interview he hated jockeys , " i spend 6 months getting a horse ready and they cant even give me 60 secs " , and he wasn't laughing , said he loved S Dye but even he annoyed him . Lost count how many times we had a horse we thought was ready for a big one only to get a brain dead ride . Pam Robson 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47South 26 Report post Posted November 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Leggy said: You've heard trainers giving instructions to jockeys on Trackside? Are Hello Leggy They oftern well say how theywant the horse ridden and what the instructions well be to the jockey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,005 Report post Posted November 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, 47South said: Are Hello Leggy They oftern well say how theywant the horse ridden and what the instructions well be to the jockey So you haven't actually heard them giving instructions to the jockey, just them reporting how they think the horse might best be ridden? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47South 26 Report post Posted November 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Leggy said: So you haven't actually heard them giving instructions to the jockey, just them reporting how they think the horse might best be ridden? 4FS I have been in the game since aged 11 I have lead horses in, owned horses, legged up jockeys and been told final instructions for jockeys from absent trainer worked as a race day steward Heard it all including I wont tell you how to "ride" to Dont knock it around today etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,005 Report post Posted November 1, 2020 So have I but that doesn't really answer my question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wood 1,545 Report post Posted November 1, 2020 22 hours ago, Leggy said: I'd say skill and judgement is the key. Not experience. I think one comes with the other Leggy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,005 Report post Posted November 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, Chris Wood said: I think one comes with the other Leggy! Probably right (though not necessarily always imo). I'd trust your judgement though Chris! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbets 206 Report post Posted November 2, 2020 Simple do speed map an determine the pace then you get an idea of how the race will be run. Also some tracks have a front runners bias. All part of the the punting puzzel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 3,453 Report post Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, bestbets said: Simple do speed map an determine the pace then you get an idea of how the race will be run. Also some tracks have a front runners bias. All part of the the punting puzzel You have left jockey's out of the equation , the toughest part of the puzzle to work out . Lost count of the times i've thought , right they will do this , then they go out and do 5 different things to the one i expected . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...