Blossom Lady 67 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 A Good 2 today ........... FFS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobysnacks 386 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 That would explain all the scratchings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 I believe that in Melb, they strive to “start” each raceday with a Good4 rating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,790 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 Normally has a good sole of grass but precipitation forecast for the afternoon as you would expect from most Avondale meetings, groundhog being used and rail out 4m... are we going to see leaders win the majority of races? First Rock in Race 7 looks overs $14/$3.70 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 11 979 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 Kinda obvious that level of scratchings due to wide barrier draws. Several 1200m races and connections just not prepared to start at wider than about barrier 9. Avondale usually serves up a nice surface , but there has been serious water restrictions in city recently. And not much spring rain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 Once I commented that for some strange reason the galloping guys seem to scratch a lot of the time and got one or two comments that slagged me off,but the harness guys just turn up if you get a bad draw or whatever,its just part of it,it seems the gallops trainers in the south just race despite the conditions,maybe that's because they dont race as much,so just get on with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 Having said that the harness guys with all weather tracks pretty much know what the tracks gunna be like. Gee I'm waffling lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey 2,037 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 19 minutes ago, mikenz said: Once I commented that for some strange reason the galloping guys seem to scratch a lot of the time and got one or two comments that slagged me off,but the harness guys just turn up if you get a bad draw or whatever,its just part of it,it seems the gallops trainers in the south just race despite the conditions,maybe that's because they dont race as much,so just get on with it. Is there as much pressure on the legs of a Harness horses compared to gallopers? Harness breed a lot tougher & sturdier as well aren't they, gallopers breed for speed etc nzhorseracing 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,855 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 Certainly interesting. Almost 70 scratchings on a firm track and not a single ballot missed a start. In the SI it is rare for a ballot to get a start. Just look how many balloted and eliminated horses miss a start at Timaru this week. Timaru had enough horses to run 14 races but probably be lucky if they run 11. Rather bizarre that they have added an extra meeting at Otaki next week because of the number of noms for Woodville, and yet they are only running 8 races at Woodville. Hardly a capacity field at HB last week either. When anyone mentions that it is hard to follow form in the SI just remember that they have much bigger fields and horses have to start whenever they get an opportunity. There is no better option a few days later where they are guaranteed a start. It all comes down to poor management really, and absolutely no sign that it has improved since lockdown. dock leaf and napier 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, We're Doomed said: Certainly interesting. Almost 70 scratchings on a firm track and not a single ballot missed a start. In the SI it is rare for a ballot to get a start. Just look how many balloted and eliminated horses miss a start at Timaru this week. Timaru had enough horses to run 14 races but probably be lucky if they run 11. Rather bizarre that they have added an extra meeting at Otaki next week because of the number of noms for Woodville, and yet they are only running 8 races at Woodville. Hardly a capacity field at HB last week either. When anyone mentions that it is hard to follow form in the SI just remember that they have much bigger fields and horses have to start whenever they get an opportunity. There is no better option a few days later where they are guaranteed a start. It all comes down to poor management really, and absolutely no sign that it has improved since lockdown. And I think that the Southern area could handle a few extra meetings,when they get going there is usually a meeting at least once a fortnight, but after having 3 early meetings fortnightly they now only get two meetings in 6 weeks,maybe the odd meeting on a Monday might be a good idea,moving forward as it dont impinge on any other meeting,just a thought. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 Gee good sized fields for Washdyke,one wonders if the wogs in suits notice that when they decide to close the gates and race everything at Riccarton. I'm just being a bit sarcastic, I bet they leave Timare just as it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey 2,037 Report post Posted October 7, 2020 3 hours ago, We're Doomed said: Certainly interesting. Almost 70 scratchings on a firm track and not a single ballot missed a start. In the SI it is rare for a ballot to get a start. Just look how many balloted and eliminated horses miss a start at Timaru this week. Timaru had enough horses to run 14 races but probably be lucky if they run 11. Rather bizarre that they have added an extra meeting at Otaki next week because of the number of noms for Woodville, and yet they are only running 8 races at Woodville. Hardly a capacity field at HB last week either. When anyone mentions that it is hard to follow form in the SI just remember that they have much bigger fields and horses have to start whenever they get an opportunity. There is no better option a few days later where they are guaranteed a start. It all comes down to poor management really, and absolutely no sign that it has improved since lockdown. Maybe Woodville only has 8 races cause apparently there weren't enough Tie ups to go around at the last meeting, i.e. perhaps they are learning something. napier and JJ Flash 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobysnacks 386 Report post Posted October 7, 2020 Guess what happens when you have a sprinkle of rain on a Good 2 track?.... Baz (NZ) and Gruff 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz (NZ) 1,722 Report post Posted October 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, NextPlease said: Guess what happens when you have a sprinkle of rain on a Good 2 track?.... Avondale Gone! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobysnacks 386 Report post Posted October 7, 2020 Amateur hour returns. Surely the track manager/s would have discussed what effect rain would have on a bone-dry track? Obviously not... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted October 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, NextPlease said: Amateur hour returns. Surely the track manager/s would have discussed what effect rain would have on a bone-dry track? Obviously not... Get that all weather track ready,unusual to need it in summer months though lol. Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted October 7, 2020 In recent years most clubs have struggled to run 8 races.Things must be looking up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blossom Lady 67 Report post Posted October 7, 2020 They should have watered the track yesterday and it would never have got to a Good 2 , absolute disgrace !! Close the arsehole down and line the left leaning officials up against a wall and shoot them with a ball of their own shit ! The place is a dump......... Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted October 7, 2020 Spose the traffic jam of racegoers heading home will beat the real rush hours lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,535 Report post Posted October 7, 2020 Terrible outcome, when will we learn A bloody disgrace Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted October 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Blossom Lady said: They should have watered the track yesterday and it would never have got to a Good 2 , absolute disgrace !! Close the arsehole down and line the left leaning officials up against a wall and shoot them with a ball of their own shit ! The place is a dump......... Maybe they are short of water. arjay 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,790 Report post Posted October 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Blossom Lady said: They should have watered the track yesterday and it would never have got to a Good 2 , absolute disgrace !! Close the arsehole down and line the left leaning officials up against a wall and shoot them with a ball of their own shit ! The place is a dump......... The weather forecast was spot on from at least 5 days ago, as Tassie Eluded Auckland is under water restrictions, question is to what extent does this effect the Avondale decision ? nzhorseracing and arjay 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,719 Report post Posted October 7, 2020 In gallops draw 9 is 9 out from the fence (obvious) while in harness it is (usually) 1 on second row likewise draw 13 is 13 out whereas harness is 5 on second line. I know that all sounds obvious but shows why a wide draw in harness is not so crucial as gallops - of course a favourite which is given draw 1 is fortunate either code and often unfortunate for the poor old bookies! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,719 Report post Posted October 7, 2020 Love it or loathe it the Avondale course is surely vital to gallops in the north especially as they are averse to running trials/jump outs at Ellerslie. Anyone in my opinion who thinks Avondale should be done away with/sold off cannot see further than their own pockets. The Auckland Trotting Club will in the not too distant future see the folly of selling off land - once it's gone that's it, a oncer as far as making money is concerned. nomates, arjay, Archer and 1 other 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
army 156 Report post Posted October 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Blossom Lady said: They should have watered the track yesterday and it would never have got to a Good 2 , absolute disgrace !! Close the arsehole down and line the left leaning officials up against a wall and shoot them with a ball of their own shit ! The place is a dump......... They are not allowed to because of low water levels in Auckland. Elleslie is the same they cant water tracks Archer, Huey and Sobeit 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...