fermoy 226 Report post Posted September 19, 2020 I thought that todays Races at Hastings were to be run as a closed meeting under NZTR Covid 19 Level 2 regulations??? If thats the case why does TV coverage show some Owners on course??? Have I missed something? Dissident 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,420 Report post Posted September 19, 2020 Crossed my mind that too. Interesting to hear a response on this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
army 156 Report post Posted September 19, 2020 Perhaps they made an exception for the Group 1 race. You can have up to 100 but how do you decide who goes but with a Group 1 it would make it easy just to invite those owners Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,420 Report post Posted September 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, army said: Perhaps they made an exception for the Group 1 race. You can have up to 100 but how do you decide who goes but with a Group 1 it would make it easy just to invite those owners That’s seems fair....as a group 1 horse would cost more to train then a maiden.... Maybe just another case of one rule for some and another for others. Bollix. For what’s it worth I can’t see why owners can’t be allowed on course. Why NZracing have not been able to come with an across the board solution. How about a plan going forward. ADM, meomy and Dissident 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dissident 155 Report post Posted September 19, 2020 44 minutes ago, shaneMcAlister said: That’s seems fair....as a group 1 horse would cost more to train then a maiden.... Maybe just another case of one rule for some and another for others. Bollix. For what’s it worth I can’t see why owners can’t be allowed on course. Why NZracing have not been able to come with an across the board solution. How about a plan going forward. Yes, we are going to be living with this for some time aren't we so surely there are some possible solutions under level 2. I see too that cinemas are allowed 100 in each cinema so long as they are socially distanced and don't mingle?! Racecourses have plenty of spaces they can seprate off don't they, though I appreciate that takes some organising which costs in wages. Heck as a spectator after missing another chunk of racing, I don't know about others but I would happily pay a fee to get the chance to be on course. As a start though, if limited to 100 and more requests from owners are received than numbers allowed why not just draw the names out of a hat? Remain seated at a set table when inside, 2m distance outside and no mingling with jockeys, owners, strappers and trainers (keep that 2m distance at all times and seperate areas)? Suppose there might be uproar from those who miss out though! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,681 Report post Posted September 19, 2020 2 hours ago, shaneMcAlister said: That’s seems fair....as a group 1 horse would cost more to train then a maiden.... ?????? Do they eat more? Wear more expensive shoes? Carry 2 jockeys instead of one? By the time they have become Gp 1 quality I would have thought they have plenty of funds in the bin and training fees are a lesser burden relatively speaking. Seems to me that funding and PR more important at the entry level to keep participants in the game. chelseacol and Pam Robson 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis 43 Report post Posted September 19, 2020 I did hear them say there was a room for group 1 owners, a room for sponsors, a room for members and one other but can’t remember who . Dissident 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermoy 226 Report post Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, elvis said: I did hear them say there was a room for group 1 owners, a room for sponsors, a room for members and one other but can’t remember who . When did that rule get changed? Its only 3 days ago that owners were not even allowed to watch their horses at the Levin Jumpouts according to an NZTR directive,even though they are unofficial.Smacks of double standards Mr Saundry??Surely not?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,420 Report post Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, fermoy said: When did that rule get changed? Its only 3 days ago that owners were not even allowed to watch their horses at the Levin Jumpouts according to an NZTR directive,even though they are unofficial.Smacks of double standards Mr Saundry??Surely not?? Exactly. This is bullshit. We should all be treated the same. ADM and fermoy 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meomy 971 Report post Posted September 19, 2020 Viruses are hardly likely to spread in wide open spaces, anyone with half a brain knows that. Indeed Vitamin D and sunshine on one's body with fresh clean air in one's lungs is the best way to retain one's overall well being and keep viruses at bay. Remember when we had free apples and milk in schools together with Exercise drills first thing in the morning? We'll it's time commonsense in Public Health was brought back to where it used to be before the lot of no hopers we have calling the shots. Auckland University allow 300 students in lecture theatres for Law classes. Follow the Science & we will all be having "Died following Science" on our Death Certificates. Black Kirrama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meomy 971 Report post Posted September 19, 2020 It's overdue everyone stood up to those "Scientists" & those calling the shots including Miss Ardern who was at Massey University during the week without any Social Distancing, Mask & in very close proximity of a group of pple who looked like the same outspoken students involved in BLM Protests. We all need to ensure Society returns to civilisation, normal life, pronto as is required under WHO & Civil Emergency Legal Requirements. Do recall we have been repeatedly told that the likelihood of catching Coronavirus at Supermarkets etc where one is casually passing by one is hardly likely to catch Covid. Besides, they have been Community Contact tracing from the outset, pple can always use the Covid Serco app for what it's worth or keep a journal if they are concerned abt contacting C19. chevy86 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meomy 971 Report post Posted September 19, 2020 @army Our local supermarket allows 90 pple maximum, which is what the law has always stated. It's a lot smaller than a racecourse. The rules are disproportionate, as is the stance that this Gvt, and others are taking towards those who have either a runny nose, fever, pneumonia or a new repeated cough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,420 Report post Posted September 19, 2020 I think there is heaps of opportunities for racing to have areas of 100 people max. Ie 100 per floor etc. however nzracing has done little planning to allow this to happen. If Hawkes bay had 100 sponsors, 100 owners etc I think that is good. But should be a rule for all clubs to do. Dissident, Pam Robson and fermoy 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie 1,025 Report post Posted September 19, 2020 15 hours ago, shaneMcAlister said: That’s seems fair....as a group 1 horse would cost more to train then a maiden.... Maybe just another case of one rule for some and another for others. Bollix. For what’s it worth I can’t see why owners can’t be allowed on course. Why NZracing have not been able to come with an across the board solution. How about a plan going forward. Owners allowed at Trots at Methven last week with nearly 160 horses racing.HRNZ have come up with excellent crowd control plan. chelseacol, fermoy and Dissident 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,420 Report post Posted September 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, richie said: Owners allowed at Trots at Methven last week with nearly 160 horses racing.HRNZ have come up with excellent crowd control plan. A plan....now that is an idea!! We still need a plan as we may move between levels again going forward. Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermoy 226 Report post Posted September 20, 2020 19 hours ago, meomy said: It's overdue everyone stood up to those "Scientists" & those calling the shots including Miss Ardern who was at Massey University during the week without any Social Distancing, Mask & in very close proximity of a group of pple who looked like the same outspoken students involved in BLM Protests. We all need to ensure Society returns to civilisation, normal life, pronto as is required under WHO & Civil Emergency Legal Requirements. Do recall we have been repeatedly told that the likelihood of catching Coronavirus at Supermarkets etc where one is casually passing by one is hardly likely to catch Covid. Besides, they have been Community Contact tracing from the outset, pple can always use the Covid Serco app for what it's worth or keep a journal if they are concerned abt contacting C19. This rule re no owners or public at races,trials and jumpouts has nothing to do with the Government.It is solely a rule brought in by NZ Thoroughbred Racing. That being the case why was it changed supposedly for Hastings on Saturday?.Dont tell me it was to let owners of horses in the Group 1 race attend because there were a lot of other high profile people there other than those owners,trainers,jockeys and staff etc.???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam Robson 1,536 Report post Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) Clearly, the connections of high profile horses are less likely to be a Covid-19 risk. Edited September 20, 2020 by Pam Robson fermoy, chelseacol, Shad and 2 others 1 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,420 Report post Posted September 21, 2020 I stand corrected. Here is information from NZTR From Saturday (Hastings/Ruakaka onwards), clubs have the option of hosting owners under COVID Level 2. This option can be taken by a club, provided that it has prepared an operating plan for safely hosting owners or other attendees in groups of up to 100, and that plan has been submitted to NZTR and signed off. The protocol was updated on 7 September to enable this regime (https://loveracing.nz/OnHorseFiles/Downloads/NZTR%20Directive%20COVID-19%20Alert%20Level-2%20(Update%207%20September%202020).pdf). Owners who have horses entered in such meetings will be advised, and would need to RSVP with the club concerned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam Robson 1,536 Report post Posted September 21, 2020 Ok, thanks. Never saw that. Apologies for my annoyance! shaneMcAlister 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey 2,037 Report post Posted September 21, 2020 40 minutes ago, shaneMcAlister said: I stand corrected. Here is information from NZTR From Saturday (Hastings/Ruakaka onwards), clubs have the option of hosting owners under COVID Level 2. This option can be taken by a club, provided that it has prepared an operating plan for safely hosting owners or other attendees in groups of up to 100, and that plan has been submitted to NZTR and signed off. The protocol was updated on 7 September to enable this regime (https://loveracing.nz/OnHorseFiles/Downloads/NZTR%20Directive%20COVID-19%20Alert%20Level-2%20(Update%207%20September%202020).pdf). Owners who have horses entered in such meetings will be advised, and would need to RSVP with the club concerned. Good work by them well done. shaneMcAlister, Dissident and Leggy 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis2 1,078 Report post Posted September 21, 2020 Full house at Woodville on Thursday. fermoy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyisit 227 Report post Posted September 21, 2020 6 hours ago, shaneMcAlister said: I stand corrected. Here is information from NZTR From Saturday (Hastings/Ruakaka onwards), clubs have the option of hosting owners under COVID Level 2. This option can be taken by a club, provided that it has prepared an operating plan for safely hosting owners or other attendees in groups of up to 100, and that plan has been submitted to NZTR and signed off. The protocol was updated on 7 September to enable this regime (https://loveracing.nz/OnHorseFiles/Downloads/NZTR%20Directive%20COVID-19%20Alert%20Level-2%20(Update%207%20September%202020).pdf). Owners who have horses entered in such meetings will be advised, and would need to RSVP with the club concerned. No need to stand being corrected Shane.The directive is dated the 20th September 2020 on the download link. The rest is bullshit to suit the situation for those two clubs the day after the races. Pam Robson and fermoy 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermoy 226 Report post Posted September 21, 2020 42 minutes ago, Whyisit said: No need to stand being corrected Shane.The directive is dated the 20th September 2020 on the download link. The rest is bullshit to suit the situation for those two clubs the day after the races. Hahahaha.So this is a ruling made on Sunday the 20th September to cover arses for what was allowed to happen in contravention of the existing rules the day before at Hastings???? Is that what you are saying?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,006 Report post Posted September 21, 2020 The directive was circulated to clubs on 7th September allowing for this from 19th. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,420 Report post Posted September 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, Leggy said: The directive was circulated to clubs on 7th September allowing for this from 19th. Correct. I was wrong, I actually received the directive and missed it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...