Houlahan's Dream 535 Report post Posted September 11, 2020 Hi Folks Things have been a little quiet on here lately, so I thought I would ask an obvious question....If you are on the punt today, or even scanned the fields loosely, what is your Bet of the Day and why did you pick that particular animal. I like Aktau, Race 5 Flemington, goes at 4:15. Very solid record in Australia, won first up over a mile last December, went on to win Mornington Cup in March I think it was, over 2400. Looks like it might be on the Cups trail but still a good bet over 1700 I reckon. Paying $4s on NZTAB, $4.20 BET365. Have at it Cafe people. It's Saturday in NZ, you can't go to the races, so virtual fun it is...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie 1,027 Report post Posted September 11, 2020 Rosehill R8 Fasika Trainer using this as a stepping stone for an Everest spot and owners have already started discussions with a slot holder. Great fresh up record of 2 wins and a 2nd and has had 3 nice trials to get ready for this.Currently @ $2.60 but I believe will be $2 by start time. TurnyTom 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukkledragga 229 Report post Posted September 11, 2020 Here are 3 that should like it wet at flemington ,savatiano, shot of irish and doubtland. all have shortened up pricewise but still good value Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted September 11, 2020 Interesting that all the picks are on aussie racing,that sort of explains what is fundamentaly wrong with nz racing ,it just dont appeal as much as the ozzie racing to many. Red Rum and Pegasus 9 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlahan's Dream 535 Report post Posted September 11, 2020 Good point Mike. Ellerslie is my home track, been going since I was a kid. Cannot pick my nose there. Terrible. Felmington, Rosehill, to a lesser extent Caulfied and Randwick - I do ok. Better horses, more reliable form, bigger pools. So yes, that is my preference. Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukkledragga 229 Report post Posted September 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, mikenz said: Interesting that all the picks are on aussie racing,that sort of explains what is fundamentaly wrong with nz racing ,it just dont appeal as much as the ozzie racing to many. They never stopped racing like we did and since we restarted there have been so many outsiders winning at home it makes following ozzie form an "easier"and more attractive proposition and if you add in the racing .com app that is so user friendly....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted September 11, 2020 I remember on a radio saturday morning show some time ago the president of the Riccarton club was talking about the days racing there and was asked by the guy on radio for a winner for the day,lo and behold he tipped a race from ozzie,talk about not looking after his own interest,shit happens I spose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie 1,027 Report post Posted September 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, mikenz said: Interesting that all the picks are on aussie racing,that sort of explains what is fundamentaly wrong with nz racing ,it just dont appeal as much as the ozzie racing to many. Ellerslie a heavy track and only 4 flat races,Riccarton a very hard track to.pick winners.Also always to find a horse with a decent chance at over odds in NZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted September 11, 2020 What to put my bonus bet on,it expires on 13th so will get it on before midnight just in case it's gone by morning,what to do though,a race or a sports multi,gee life can be complicated lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaird 131 Report post Posted September 12, 2020 I like Lady Shabeel number 5 race 8 Ellerslie, currently at 9 and 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted September 12, 2020 My bonus bet,Carson River won.Some funds to play around with later. richie 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted September 12, 2020 If it was only that easy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus 9 523 Report post Posted September 12, 2020 Rosehill R8 #5 Haut Brion Her. Eight starts never out of the money plus JMac is on board. Looking forward to seeing R5 Mo’unga as well. We're Doomed and Cubes 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,855 Report post Posted September 12, 2020 As people have indicated above the Aussie form is just so much easier to follow. Their racing is much better structured. We don't even make an attempt to structure ours properly. Horses just have to take their chances when they can get them. Ironically, with open entry races there is more chance of horses finding a race over the right distance these days, but then they find themselves racing way out of their class, if they can get a start. All this does remind me that I too have a bonus bet to spend.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis2 1,078 Report post Posted September 12, 2020 Fierce Impact Flemington. Has won Group one 1600 on course. Good last start. Top jock. Cubes, We're Doomed and nomates 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 3,555 Report post Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Memphis2 said: Fierce Impact Flemington. Has won Group one 1600 on course. Good last start. Top jock. Hope you had plenty on him , he looked the bet second up but that second horse was a run and a half , looks like a top hope for the cups . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis2 1,078 Report post Posted September 12, 2020 Yes mate and a good slice of the quin. You would have heard me cheering at your joint Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 3,555 Report post Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Memphis2 said: Yes mate and a good slice of the quin. You would have heard me cheering at your joint I thought the noise was a couple of cats mating ! Well done . Memphis2 and Gruff 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted September 12, 2020 9 hours ago, Houlahan's Dream said: Good point Mike. Ellerslie is my home track, been going since I was a kid. Cannot pick my nose there. Terrible. Felmington, Rosehill, to a lesser extent Caulfied and Randwick - I do ok. Better horses, more reliable form, bigger pools. So yes, that is my preference. Apparently the turnovers on the southern meetings since lockdown have been very good,some good fields and basically some good tracks does make a difference,we should patronize the local product,a bit hard slagging it off if not being supported by nzeders Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted September 12, 2020 It is true though that the weather is better in oz,that helps but in the height of summer our racing is ok too as long as you dont get too many of those 4 and 5 horse fields,there was a lot of them a while ago,not good at holiday meetings where you need to raise the profile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted September 12, 2020 The irony is that while racing in heavy shit in winter is not great come summer some of the tracks get too hard,is that caused by bad management? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,790 Report post Posted September 12, 2020 34 minutes ago, mikenz said: The irony is that while racing in heavy shit in winter is not great come summer some of the tracks get too hard,is that caused by bad management? Which tracks Mikey? Given Aucklands water issues maybe we will see track records from the too hard 80s challenged .... Heavy 10 this morning and i noticed a 3.11 2760m ... penetrometer is useless, and given Ellerslies Topography even moreso Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlahan's Dream 535 Report post Posted September 12, 2020 23 hours ago, mikenz said: 12 hours ago, mikenz said: Apparently the turnovers on the southern meetings since lockdown have been very good,some good fields and basically some good tracks does make a difference,we should patronize the local product,a bit hard slagging it off if not being supported by nzeders I disagree with you on this. I am pretty much a capitalist....I spend my dollars to mostly benefit myself. I support one charity, and provide extra food for poor kids for lunches at a local school. For the rest I do not support local, or non local. I just look for the best product for my hard earned dollars. At times the local racing product is so poor, so poorly packaged and marketed......it is no great loss to spend money elsewhere. And yes, I go to the races in NZ when we are allowed, buy a bad coffee and a sub par sandwich, etc, and I am aware that people are employed at local tracks, as I used to be and most of my family at various times. My point was simply that I find it far easier picking winners in Aus, than here. Although my BOTD did nothing yesterday, I did ok at Ellerslie and got Haut Brion etc at Rosehill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Houlahan's Dream said: I disagree with you on this. I am pretty much a capitalist....I spend my dollars to mostly benefit myself. I support one charity, and provide extra food for poor kids for lunches at a local school. For the rest I do not support local, or non local. I just look for the best product for my hard earned dollars. At times the local racing product is so poor, so poorly packaged and marketed......it is no great loss to spend money elsewhere. And yes, I go to the races in NZ when we are allowed, buy a bad coffee and a sub par sandwich, etc, and I am aware that people are employed at local tracks, as I used to be and most of my family at various times. My point was simply that I find it far easier picking winners in Aus, than here. Although my BOTD did nothing yesterday, I did ok at Ellerslie and got Haut Brion etc at Rosehill. So I take it you wont be betting big on those 16 horse maiden races at Methven trots today Houlahan's Dream 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukkledragga 229 Report post Posted September 13, 2020 15 hours ago, mikenz said: Apparently the turnovers on the southern meetings since lockdown have been very good,some good fields and basically some good tracks does make a difference,we should patronize the local product,a bit hard slagging it off if not being supported by nzeders If the pools are comingled it does not matter what you bet on, the tab gets the same slice for themselves and the industry.Racing .com has so much programming aimed at promoting turnover on their product, that win lose or draw at least we are getting ALL the info and punters like me have been lured in , tried it ,liked it and are happier as a result.The racing industry here has had the template for success put on a platter for them by messara and they have wasted YEARS not implementing anything, in oz the free to air broadcasting on the 7 network during the lockdown was such a success they have expanded future offerings , putting racing in front of a bigger audience than normal and having watched it , it was rather ironic that 7's coverage ( using racing.coms video) was far superior because the graphics never obscured your vision, so even racing.com could improve a bit in that regard.Again the template for success is on a platter and the aussies are successful because they have attracted punters LIKE ME. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...