45yearsofharness 173 Report post Posted August 14, 2020 An Auckland trainer has managed to breach the requirements of the purpose of the lock down, and traveled to Cambridge. The Govt asked people not to leave the Auckland area if you live there, to help stop the spread of the virus. JTeaz 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,071 Report post Posted August 14, 2020 You think that's bad,planeloads of dorklanders flew south in last few days,keep them effing bugs to themselves. 45yearsofharness, john legend and Keneperu 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,071 Report post Posted August 14, 2020 Any dorks positive in s Island should be named and shamed. 45yearsofharness 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45yearsofharness 173 Report post Posted August 14, 2020 Another Trainer moved there horses outside the Auckland area. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,071 Report post Posted August 14, 2020 In reality if racing can be smart as ozzie seems to be then it can keep going in some form. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45yearsofharness 173 Report post Posted August 14, 2020 It is, Cambridge hosting non Auckland only, new fields 12pm today, apart from those that breached. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly 18 Report post Posted August 14, 2020 It’s not a breach if they did this before 12noon on Wednesday. Good on them for thinking outside the square. Horse movements were clearly posted on the HRNZ fields for Waikato. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45yearsofharness 173 Report post Posted August 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Holly said: It’s not a breach if they did this before 12noon on Wednesday. Good on them for thinking outside the square. Horse movements were clearly posted on the HRNZ fields for Waikato. Its not about the horses, its about the people, and that is why road blocks were in place early Wednesday morning. No problem with the horses being there, but the people should not be. ivanthegreat and Holly 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45yearsofharness 173 Report post Posted August 14, 2020 Bottom line is, no Aucklander should be at the Cambridge meeting, otherwise all the Auckland drivers would have been there, but NO! not allowed.......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly 18 Report post Posted August 14, 2020 27 minutes ago, 45yearsofharness said: Its not about the horses, its about the people, and that is why road blocks were in place early Wednesday morning. No problem with the horses being there, but the people should not be. I know in two cases the trainers won’t be there but the horses will. Remember the border is just out of Pukekohe. Stables in Waikato looking after horses. 27 minutes ago, 45yearsofharness said: 45yearsofharness 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsvman 294 Report post Posted August 14, 2020 Cambridge shouldn’t even race, not just because of Covid because of the terrible stakes and shit facilities they have Hunter the punter 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelli 426 Report post Posted August 14, 2020 3 hours ago, hsvman said: Cambridge shouldn’t even race, not just because of Covid because of the terrible stakes and shit facilities they have I feel lucky to be able to watch my horse have its first start tomorrow on her 2nd full prep this year, the 1st ending with previous covid outbreak. While the stables are poor compared to Auckland and Addington (but no worse than many other clubs) I much prefer watching races there than any other NI track. Closer to horses and good view of track from multiple places. Don't have to be a member to enjoy tiered dining/viewing. Of course as an owner I would like higher stakes but the club has to be fiscally responsible and can only work within its income stream. The stakes not that bad - as long as don't get same rating penalty as Auckland!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongOwner 217 Report post Posted August 14, 2020 Only group anyone should have a go at are the South Auckland family who were sick for 7 days and then decided to have a holiday before they thought maybe we should get tested . Family hold your head in shame ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45yearsofharness 173 Report post Posted August 14, 2020 Note from HRNZ re people attending Cambridge Meeting. In addition to this information if you have recently been in the Auckland Super City area or in the Rotorua or Taupo area's, you should consider NOT attending a race meeting this weekend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,071 Report post Posted August 15, 2020 How many trainers are not showing up today from Auckland? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45yearsofharness 173 Report post Posted August 15, 2020 1 hour ago, mikenz said: How many trainers are not showing up today from Auckland? All but 1 that I know of, some Auckland horses are with Waikato trainers, 1 other trainer from Auckland area could be there. ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,071 Report post Posted August 15, 2020 1 minute ago, 45yearsofharness said: All but 1 that I know of, some Auckland horses are with Waikato trainers, 1 other trainer from Auckland area could be there. ?? I did see a purdon name somewhere in the mix. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,071 Report post Posted August 15, 2020 Well for that matter how many trainers are in the Auckland area,?I dont follow that area that closely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45yearsofharness 173 Report post Posted August 15, 2020 Just now, mikenz said: Well for that matter how many trainers are in the Auckland area,?I dont follow that area that closely. Would be well over 12 even possibly 20 + Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45yearsofharness 173 Report post Posted August 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, mikenz said: I did see a purdon name somewhere in the mix. Purdons horse was bought down by another trainer on Wednesday I believe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,711 Report post Posted August 15, 2020 So what's the problem? By Michael Guerin Some smart thinking and a trip around the corner has provided a stable of Pukekohe horses with a chance to race today that they wouldn’t have had from home. Today’s Cambridge meeting will go ahead after the fields were totally re-drawn yesterday morning with all the Auckland region-based horses withdrawn, leaving a meeting made up of mainly Waikato and Central Districts horses. But included among those starting today will be several horses actually trained in the Auckland region but whose trainers took the opportunity to move them, in one case just a few hundred metres. Pukekohe trainer Derek Balle moved the horses he wanted to start at today’s meeting 800m around the corner to stay at the property of fellow trainer Paulette Screen, who property while so is officially in Waikato. Trainers are allowed to, and often do for campaigns further from home, stable horses with other trainers, having to lodge an official horse movement notice which is listed on the Harness Racing New Zealand website directly under the fields. That means Balle’s transferred horses can compete today because they are already domiciled in Waikato and can travel to and from the race with Balle’s stable worker Owen Gillies, who also lives just south of the border. “I spoke to stipendiary steward Steve Mulcay and he said there was no issue with it,” explains Balle. “We are talking a few hundred metres but I am officially in Pukekohe so I and anybody who works at my stable couldn’t go to the races and take the horses. “But Paulette’s property, while it is just around the corner, is in Waikato and Owen lives in Waikato too. “So we are doing what is best for the owners and giving the horse’s their best chances without any humans having to cross the border between Auckland region and Waikato.” All overseas studies on racehorse movement have suggested Covid-19 can’t be transferred via the animals. Balle isn’t the only trainer to take advantage of moving his horses to another property to enable them to race today, with South Auckland trainer Jay Abernethy heading south before the Level 3 curfew on Wednesday to take his horses to the property of Waikato trainer Robbie Hughes, staying in the region himself so he can drive at today’s meeting. He as the only Auckland-region based driver to take that opportunity, so the rest of the drivers at today’s meeting will be from south of Pukekohe, predominantly Waikato. With tomorrow’s Ruakaka thoroughbred meeting cancelled, the next horse meeting in the northern area is scheduled to be Taupo on Wednesday and the latest NZTR information suggests horses from the Auckland region will be permitted to start at Taupo but Auckland region-based staff won’t be able to travel with them. The latest NZTR regulations state an Auckland-based horse can trial or race outside the region if they are transported to and from the meeting by an independent horse freight company and loaded and unloaded in compliance with Covid-19 protocols. Horses that travel to meeting outside the area would need to be looked after by a stable worker or trainer based in Waikato or further south and then return back to the Auckland region with any gear which travels with the horse to be disinfected. With those protocols in place and horse racing and training allowed to continue at Level 3, only a move to Level 4 or a major outbreak inside the racing industry would seem likely to halt the $1.6 billion industry. With Auckland set to remain at Level 3 for possibly the next 11 days the only horse racing meeting in the region in that time will be at Alexandra Park next Thursday and that should be able to go head but with no public or owners allowed. All meetings conducted at Level 3 will be staged without any public or owners allowed but meetings in Level 2 regions allow owners to attend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanthegreat 1,123 Report post Posted August 15, 2020 AS for the Auckland trainer: R1 61:1 9th R2 71:1 9th R3 23:1 5th R4 71:1 6th R5 16:1 4th R7 61:1 6th R8 34:1 5th R9 51:1 9th Maybe shud have let them start when he arrived ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45yearsofharness 173 Report post Posted August 15, 2020 "Horses that travel to meeting outside the area would need to be looked after by a stable worker or trainer based in Waikato or further south and then return back to the Auckland region with any gear which travels with the horse to be disinfected" Didn't happen. JTeaz 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,711 Report post Posted August 15, 2020 How do you know that. Did you read Guerin's article? Surely that explains it quite simply. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45yearsofharness 173 Report post Posted August 15, 2020 51 minutes ago, eljay said: How do you know that. Did you read Guerin's article? Surely that explains it quite simply. No matter when the travel was conducted, Aucklanders were asked not to travel, even before 12pm Wednesday. Road blocks where in place early Wednesday morning to stop people leaving, only inconsiderate people would leave after being asked not to. People need think of others, no one knows who could have been in contact with a positive person, we are told to treat everyone as if they have it. My family was very close to being one of the clusters last time, we were on edge for days, once again a family member could be a contact, still waiting to hear. This is no time for complacency, when people are asked not to do certain things they need to take heed for the good of all those trying to avoid the worst. Common sense prevails. Less movement means less chance of the virus going places. Think of others before one makes a selfish or inconsiderate decision Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...