jeepers 276 Report post Posted August 11, 2020 Just wondering how many Trainers charge their clients with a horse racing to attend a mid week meeting 30 mins from their establishment,? Is this normal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 3,588 Report post Posted August 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, jeepers said: Just wondering how many Trainers charge their clients with a horse racing to attend a mid week meeting 30 mins from their establishment,? Is this normal? Mate i know of one high profile trainer charges if you phone him . Pam Robson, Huey and ivanthegreat 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted August 11, 2020 34 minutes ago, nomates said: Mate i know of one high profile trainer charges if you phone him . If he did that to me I’d have Majestic Horse Transport at his Stable door ASAP! Red Rum and ADM 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,425 Report post Posted August 11, 2020 My training fees would go up 10 times.... I heard that Waterhouse charges for race attendance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, nomates said: Mate i know of one high profile trainer charges if you phone him . Surely not Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepers 276 Report post Posted August 11, 2020 This is not a high profile trainer,he also charged $270 to travel the horse 29km to the races.One of my other trainers only charged $160 to travel 140km to do the same.Differences in fees make for interesting reading,vitamins and supplements,gear hire,chiropractor frequency, farrier charges and frequency of shoeing etc.Can make a big difference to ones monthly account. This charge for race attendance is a new one on me.They must think they are bloody royalty, THE TORCH and ivanthegreat 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 11 979 Report post Posted August 11, 2020 NZ Owners are very resilient......they will keep on paying ,more each year for similar or less stake money and/or opportunities. Some can make a bit if they sell overseas or strike a group 1 pony. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam Robson 1,547 Report post Posted August 11, 2020 I guess it's all relative...and up to the individual, as to whether they build all the extra costs into their fee structure, or quote a low ish daily rate and then apply the add ons. Clients have the ability to make their choices. Dissident 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,554 Report post Posted August 11, 2020 7 hours ago, jeepers said: This is not a high profile trainer,he also charged $270 to travel the horse 29km to the races.One of my other trainers only charged $160 to travel 140km to do the same.Differences in fees make for interesting reading,vitamins and supplements,gear hire,chiropractor frequency, farrier charges and frequency of shoeing etc.Can make a big difference to ones monthly account. This charge for race attendance is a new one on me.They must think they are bloody royalty, Tis the sport of kings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,097 Report post Posted August 11, 2020 What about a surcharge on public holidays ??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phar Lap Fan 103 Report post Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Blue said: What about a surcharge on public holidays ??? To avoid that, insist that your horses do track work only during office hours, Monday to Friday! 47South 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepers 276 Report post Posted August 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Pam Robson said: I guess it's all relative...and up to the individual, as to whether they build all the extra costs into their fee structure, or quote a low ish daily rate and then apply the add ons. Clients have the ability to make their choices. Makes it hard Pam when there are multiple owners,especially if the trainer is involved. It is interesting that I find when one is in sole ownership of the horse the Trainers seem more accommodating,probably as they know that the owner can call the shots.I have also found here in Aussie that what ever one is quoted as a daily rate one can add between $600 to$1000 to the monthly account. Good thing about these Inglis Digital sales one can place their percentage share up for sale and get out of syndicates or multiple ownership if need be. Pam Robson 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhei Notts 1,413 Report post Posted August 12, 2020 For our filly the training fees in July were $2356. The bill came to $3717.08 with the add ons; and there were no trials or race days nor any veterinary fees. Okay, GST was $481 of those add ons. Aaron Bidlake 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wood 1,577 Report post Posted August 13, 2020 That’s expensive! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbtab 95 Report post Posted August 13, 2020 Trainers charge a lot more for syndicated horses, i have friend who has a really good horse group 1 winner and they pay 4k a month when the horse in training and racing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, dbtab said: Trainers charge a lot more for syndicated horses, i have friend who has a really good horse group 1 winner and they pay 4k a month when the horse in training and Wonder what the fee is to train that money muncher called Lethal, although he did plod round and pick up 200 bucks yesterday . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepers 276 Report post Posted August 13, 2020 8 hours ago, dbtab said: Trainers charge a lot more for syndicated horses, i have friend who has a really good horse group 1 winner and they pay 4k a month when the horse in training and racing. We pay around $4200 per month with other owners for one horse and with a different trainer we pay around $3000 a month as a solo owner.I intend to take out my Australian license as I still have my NZ license.The last of my NZ horses arrived last week We also stand a Stallion in Aust so are tigers for punishment but one must do what one loves doing. Baz (NZ) and Memphis2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 11 979 Report post Posted August 13, 2020 On 8/12/2020 at 2:35 PM, Tauhei Notts said: For our filly the training fees in July were $2356. The bill came to $3717.08 with the add ons; and there were no trials or race days nor any veterinary fees. Okay, GST was $481 of those add ons. Seems high. What then was the $900 odd extra for ? $150 for Track fees, $100 for supplements , $50 for gear hire .......what else ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,554 Report post Posted August 13, 2020 5 hours ago, jeepers said: We pay around $4200 per month with other owners for one horse and with a different trainer we pay around $3000 a month as a solo owner.I intend to take out my Australian license as I still have my NZ license.The last of my NZ horses arrived last week We also stand a Stallion in Aust so are tigers for punishment but one must do what one loves doing. Good on you for having a go yourself ,a wise man once told me if you are going to wreck a horse, you may as well do it to your own specifications, quite humorous I thought, good luck with your team. Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Bidlake 760 Report post Posted August 13, 2020 6 hours ago, tasman man 11 said: Seems high $100 for supplements , $50 for gear hire ....... Would these not be included in the daily rate though? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,097 Report post Posted August 13, 2020 18 hours ago, Red Rum said: Wonder what the fee is to train that money muncher called Lethal, although he did plod round and pick up 200 bucks yesterday . yes RR, have wondered that myself on occasions. TA paid handsomely for the Katie Lee colt in January too. Named Armoury I've yet to see him mentioned in any trackwork thus far. Just as an aside I see Opie rode in the trials at Taupo but not in the races despite Khafeef being weighted at 59.5kgs. Very hard dropping that last 2kgs or so. Hope he makes it back soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted August 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Blue said: yes RR, have wondered that myself on occasions. TA paid handsomely for the Katie Lee colt in January too. Named Armoury I've yet to see him mentioned in any trackwork thus far. Just as an aside I see Opie rode in the trials at Taupo but not in the races despite Khafeef being weighted at 59.5kgs. Very hard dropping that last 2kgs or so. Hope he makes it back soon. Feel a bit for OP, was riding well and had chance in OZ . Purely racing business wise looks a bad decision in hindsight to stay in NZ with travel restrictions but that's purely business , much more to the equation than that so hope he gets going well soon and getting the winners . There is a race in Lethal , but it is A race not much more from looks of it , Jamie Richard's might work his magic though and get a 65 out of him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepers 276 Report post Posted August 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Aaron Bidlake said: Would these not be included in the daily rate though? One of my Trainers has monthly charges of $140 for supplements,two Chiropractor at $100 each,and one shoeing per moth at $170 all plus GST.Track fees are $75.Gallops on the grass $21 each.Odd thing though is farrier and Chiropractor accounts are not available for inspection when requested. Pam Robson, arjay and Aaron Bidlake 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 3,588 Report post Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, jeepers said: One of my Trainers has monthly charges of $140 for supplements,two Chiropractor at $100 each,and one shoeing per moth at $170 all plus GST.Track fees are $75.Gallops on the grass $21 each.Odd thing though is farrier and Chiropractor accounts are not available for inspection when requested. I was once charged by the trainer for a new rug @ $330 , but when i rang up manufacturer got quoted $220 . Horse didn't go back after spell . Pam Robson, TurnyTom, Baz (NZ) and 1 other 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Sparrow 702 Report post Posted August 16, 2020 Puts me in mind of the words of an old trainer who told me when I was a young fella and knee high to a grasshopper: "Son, don't let anyone tell you racehorses eat hay - they eat money!" Many a true word spoken in jest. shaneMcAlister 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...