jeepers 276 Report post Posted July 30, 2020 I am considering sending a couple of mares to this stallion by Curlin. Spendthrift are big in the States and have a number of top stallions.Now of course it's owner B Wayne Hughes has set up in Australia and I am impressed with the caliber of stallions he is shuttling. I read somewhere that Bounding(NZ) had a colt by Curlin sell for $4.1K US at Tattersalls near the end of last year. Patiti and Huey 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasrullah 180 Report post Posted July 30, 2020 Be interested in the thoughts on a few observations and as we know there are no set rules in breeding. Dirt horse- Looking at the recent results of stallions who shuttled to Australia that were American dirt horses. The results are poor. USA- The amount of drugs horses are given is a bit of a worry. Plenty of media about this. Compare the Stakes-winners to runners in Australia to the Stakes-winners to runners in USA for a previous shuttle stallion. Seems like there are some interesting statistics there. Example Medaglia D''Óro. SW to runners 12.3% in USA. In Australia 6.3% .Street Sense SW to runners 9.5% USA, In Australia 4.2%. For a similar service fee you could send you mare to Saxon Warrior. Beat Roaring Lion as a 2yo in the G1 Racing Trophy Post. Won the G1 Guineas. 2nd to Roaring Lion beaten a neck in the G1 Champion Stakes.By Deep Impact out of a mare by Galileo. Baz (NZ) and Breeder 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasrullah 180 Report post Posted July 30, 2020 Baz (NZ), Dopey, elvis and 1 other 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patiti 274 Report post Posted July 30, 2020 Omaha Beach would also be a great option. elvis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepers 276 Report post Posted July 30, 2020 Nasrullah,sure Curlin has left mainly stakes winners on dirt but he has also left at least nine on turf and his sire Smart Strike has left both dirt and turf winners.Vino Rosso is out of a Street Cry mare and the third dam is by Lear Fran so hopefully there is enough turf blood there. Curlin did have one run on the turf running second in theG1 Breeders Cup. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted August 3, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 5:01 PM, Nasrullah said: Be interested in the thoughts on a few observations and as we know there are no set rules in breeding. Dirt horse- Looking at the recent results of stallions who shuttled to Australia that were American dirt horses. The results are poor. USA- The amount of drugs horses are given is a bit of a worry. Plenty of media about this. Compare the Stakes-winners to runners in Australia to the Stakes-winners to runners in USA for a previous shuttle stallion. Seems like there are some interesting statistics there. Example Medaglia D''Óro. SW to runners 12.3% in USA. In Australia 6.3% .Street Sense SW to runners 9.5% USA, In Australia 4.2%. For a similar service fee you could send you mare to Saxon Warrior. Beat Roaring Lion as a 2yo in the G1 Racing Trophy Post. Won the G1 Guineas. 2nd to Roaring Lion beaten a neck in the G1 Champion Stakes.By Deep Impact out of a mare by Galileo. Coolmore have plenty of War Front to try widen from Galileo , and Scat Daddy offspring although they must be coming to end of it soon. War Front had one run on turf Scat Daddy none . Looking at War Front he has broadly similar results percentage wise dirt/ all weather and turf . Although a deeper dig would be needed to separate the synthetic from dirt figures . I think there is a War Front standing in Canterbury somewhere . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasrullah 180 Report post Posted August 4, 2020 Agree War Front sons a lesser risk!! He is after all by Danzig. Also helps that Scat Daddy, War Front were dirt sprinting types than middle distance horses. My dirt fear examples- Animal Kingdom, Big Brown. I remember Berri explaining why Indi King who stood here in NZ was a big risk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepers 276 Report post Posted September 7, 2020 Had a mare served by Vino Rosso today.What a lovely animal and with the most amazingly placid temperament.They let us give him a carrot and pat him after the deed was done and he came out to let us inspect him again. Very pleased with our decision. dock leaf 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis 43 Report post Posted September 10, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 5:41 PM, Patiti said: Omaha Beach would also be a great option. He looks a cracker! Patiti 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...