Mikie 326 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 Stables I see on the T/B forum you have stated that since there are less races, then the average stake should increase until you know the % distribution between codes I fail to see how you could assume this in respect of harness racing Do you really think that the stakes for races will increase? If so, and you are correct, then we have one less thing to worry about so that’s great Mikie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 I agree that my statement is contingent upon the distribution break down between codes remaining the same. I am hoping, perhaps foolishly, that our yet to be appointed representative on the new board has a persuasive personality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 Perhaps you would like the job Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie 326 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 Which job Stables? If you mean the CEO’s job I doubt that my relationship with the Chairman, my age, my stint without liberty and my personality (I apparently doesn’t suffer fools lightly and can’t hide it) would count against me Given the CEO’s that RITA, the TAB, Thoroughbred Racing and HRNZ have each had over the last decade I could probably do half the job that Edward Rennell did, which would be twice the job most of the others have done (excluding Jim Leach) I wouldn’t have to be very good I know that one submission made to RITA on the draft Dates digressed into Turnovers, and predicted that On-course turnovers would slump to 30% of previous years given some of the planned changes. That didn’t take long to be proved correct did it? Mikie Midget 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 3,564 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 42 minutes ago, Mikie said: I see on the T/B forum you have stated that since there are less races, then the average stake should increase You also still have to programme sufficient races to enable owners horses to get opportunities to race , so until the distribution is decided and then the amount of races that have to be funded , we wont know to what stakes at all levels will be . Huey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 I meant Harness Racings rep on the new board Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie 326 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 I think that my prospects of that position would be similarly challenged All these changes to Boards and the appointment of Independent Directors begs the question, does it help or hinder? The changes to the NZRB to the NZRIB and the Independents don’t seem to have helped what is now known as RITA The changes to Thoroughbred Racing also don’t seem to have brought any advantages in governance The changes that HRNZ made don’t seem to have brought any advantages, other than I guess it made it easier for a new Board member to ingratiate himself and then land the CEO job on a full time pay, part time work basis When the Clubs had more say we seemed to be going beyter Mikie Huey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 Good point. Everythings too top heavy. Could you tell me what the point is in appointing independent board members for HRNZ. If they have little or no knowledge of racing what good are they? Huey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie 326 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 Don’t ask me Stables, I can see no point To me we would be better off spooning people with a knowledge of the industry, PLUS other skills Mikie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,719 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 Would you need other skills? A knowledge of the Industry and how it functions (should function) would be a welcome change to what we have endured for a number of yeas now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Bukowski 411 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 Guerin and O'Connor ?? badger and Ohokaman 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patiti 274 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 Rennell badger and Ohokaman 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie 326 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 1 hour ago, eljay said: Would you need other skills? A knowledge of the Industry and how it functions (should function) would be a welcome change to what we have endured for a number of yeas now. I would think that being competent or experienced with finance would be helpful. I can't see what harm there would be if they had other abilities AS WELL as having a knowledge of the industry Eljay? 2 examples of ones with not much knowledge of the industries spring to mind, what knowledge of the Greyhound Industry did Glenda Hughes have? What knowledge of the Harness Racing Industry did Mr Holden have? Mikie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga 194 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 Has the role been advertised, or will they just leave Mr Holden there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 It's supposed to be temporary, but now he's got his feet under the desk, it may be impossible to get him out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john legend 743 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 Stables, you are starting to make sense, what is the world coming to. LOL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie 326 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 Whilst we are covering the composition of Boards can anyone tell me, with their reduction in Stakes to the same level as Cambridge and their number of racedays possibly also being the same, why ATC has a direct appointed representative on HRNZ? Mikie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,135 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 16 hours ago, Charlie Bukowski said: Guerin and O'Connor ?? Both better takers than givers IMHO so of no use from a governance point of view Greg Ohokaman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 1 hour ago, john legend said: Stables, you are starting to make sense, what is the world coming to. LOL. I always have, it's only taken you a while to come round to my way of thinking JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie 326 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 54 minutes ago, Stables said: I always have, it's only taken you a while to come round to my way of thinking Always would be an exaggeration Stables, let's settle on "mainly"? Mikie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted June 30, 2020 I can assure you Mike, that my posts always seem to me, to make sense when I post them JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie 326 Report post Posted June 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Stables said: I can assure you Mike, that my posts always seem to me, to make sense when I post them Reminds me of the saying, “I’ve never gone to bed with a dog, but I’ve woken up with a few” Probably not PC to say nowadays! Mikie Stables, john legend and chevy86 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie 326 Report post Posted July 2, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 8:25 AM, Stables said: It's supposed to be temporary, but now he's got his feet under the desk, it may be impossible to get him out He's only got his feet under the desk 1.5 days a week But I bet he's paid for 7 Mikie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted July 2, 2020 Surely you jest. Who's actually running the place then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger 96 Report post Posted July 2, 2020 Yeah 1.5 days a week fly him down from North Island probably stays in a 5 star Hotel , I understand the law says HRNZ has to have a CEO and he will be Spicers pick. I cannot believe there was no person local that could have stepped in until the new CEO is appointed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...