Barry Lichter 179 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 https://www.lincolnfarms.co.nz/stories/harness-boss-peter-jensen-stands-down-over-health-issues-i-cant-give-it-100/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 Good God, we are in heavy seas and no one is at the helm. Did he jump or was he pushed?. Maybe Ken Spicer and Colin Hair will jump in after him JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Sugrue 190 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 V'landys is your man......got a good harness pedigree sorted out the NRL,,, Sydney racing over winter a bit boring He would sort the entire Industry out by Christmas.....then focus on the Championships at Randwick next autumn no big deal for him...……...I wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJESTIC 179 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 There are good people out there if approached would probably seriously consider the position. One of main stumbling blocks is that they are probably not YES people to higher authority. Isn't that what happened to the previous CEO. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongOwner 217 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 52 minutes ago, Roger Sugrue said: V'landys is your man......got a good harness pedigree sorted out the NRL,,, Sydney racing over winter a bit boring He would sort the entire Industry out by Christmas.....then focus on the Championships at Randwick next autumn no big deal for him...……...I wish Harness Racing cannot afford him - I can hear it now all the comments about him earning more than the PM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 Majestic, the previous CEO was there for about 25 years Hunter the punter 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggie 1 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 Watch out you dont get one of the dogs bosses,Barsi or Holden would jump at it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,824 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 I don't know the man at all, but it is sad if he has health issues. Lets hope he comes right. Grego and JJ Flash 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkc 181 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 There is one more that has to go. The chairman one K Spicer. Lowest polling board member and he is still chairman. He is the one that put this CEO in. The one that got rid of the last CEO To much power. Has to go! JJ Flash, badger, Toblerone and 1 other 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter the punter 23 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Stables said: Majestic, the previous CEO was there for about 25 years That why we are in this mess Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,114 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 9 hours ago, dkc said: There is one more that has to go. The chairman one K Spicer. Lowest polling board member and he is still chairman. He is the one that put this CEO in. The one that got rid of the last CEO To much power. Has to go! The worst by a country mile, has no idea and or governance experience and it shows. The McGrath situation was the all time low for neutrality- not Getting rid of previous saw HR legal action taken according to some but never heard the outcome.Hush hush perhaps Greg Toblerone and badger 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 I don't know how much power Spicer holds, dkc, I understand Colin Hair is breathing very closely down his neck. Expect a change in Chairman very shortly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,070 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 Is Jensen not having mental issues,some of the ideas coming from their suggest so? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,070 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 When one thinks about it the idea for Gore and Wyndham to move is unbelievable Gores money will go to ascot park(southland racing club)makes no cents(note cents) at all for harness racing,would be better to go to Wyndham and make Wyndham even better at least money goes back to harness racing,did this Jensen fella consider that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 11 979 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, mikenz said: When one thinks about it the idea for Gore and Wyndham to move is unbelievable Gores money will go to ascot park(southland racing club)makes no cents(note cents) at all for harness racing,would be better to go to Wyndham and make Wyndham even better at least money goes back to harness racing,did this Jensen fella consider that? The trainer [Tony Stratford] on news item seemed very comfortable with it ,in view of the circumstances. Some alternatives , including virtual collapse of the Harness industry don't bear thinking about. If your plan/ideas possible and prudent you need to be working on the thru the clubs and Southern Harness. If not ,I don't think it reasonable to be slagging off decisions and processes you know little or nothing about and in particular kicking the CEO when he is down. One man wouldn't be making all these decisions ,particularly when he works under a Board. In these desperate times RITA will be having a big say in subjects such as tracks ,dates and the future of the industry especially as Government just bailed them out ! Misery loves company and your outbursts will be catching the eye of some.....attitudes are contagious ! Whats your role , interest in these decisions ? Are you a stakeholder ? Your post [two back] re the departing CEO is totally inappropriate IMO ! Toblerone 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,070 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 So you think that harness racing as in gore should give all their money to a galloping club in invercargill perhaps instead of it's own club or secondly if they give it to another harness club to make harness racing stronger ,do you think the first option is best? Am I a stakeholder anyone that bets on the races is a small stakeholder in the industry however I won't bother with tab until all the board go and are reapplying for the job,the cuts to media,clubs ,courses,staff,probably stakes now they need to cut themselves start afresh ,some of hrnz dates decisions have only really come about because of their own actions,maybe the comments about Jensen were out of kilter but some of the decisions coming out of the top brass do ask questions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,070 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 We could all take the attitude as in who gives a shit,maybe just maybe that's why we are where things have got to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,070 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 Even just slotting in a trot meeting in Southland on duck shooting day,could they not just consider that might just irk a few?probably just went ahead and just did it,I don't bother myself but just little things like that may mystify some. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkc 181 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 Doing what they are.doing in Southland and Otago. Also Manawatu is hitting the grass roots at their base. Instead of fertilizer they are using tordon. Howdo they expect a club like Tuapeka to go all the way to Oamaru or Invercargill. The locals in this area are not going to travel those distances. Gore a large service town with a Licensing trust who put a lot of sponsorship into racing will not sponsor because there is no return to them. Like most other sponsors. Volunteers who give a lot to all clubs in NZ . What do they do it for. It's a community thing. They are not interested in all that work if another area is going to reap the rewards. Look at Rugby. As soon as you don't us local content you lose interest and this is what these high paid corporate types lose site of. The value of the the unpaid. All they are interested in is the elite. Well if its was not for clubs like Tuapeka Manawatu Roxburgh Gore Wyndham Blenheim etc. there would not be an industry. The top 10 percent is costing us 50 percent of our money. But you won't get them to recognize this because they are the decision makes and the aren't going to chop their own heads off. That's my rant for the day Huey, Hunter the punter, napier and 1 other 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,070 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, dkc said: Doing what they are.doing in Southland and Otago. Also Manawatu is hitting the grass roots at their base. Instead of fertilizer they are using tordon. Howdo they expect a club like Tuapeka to go all the way to Oamaru or Invercargill. The locals in this area are not going to travel those distances. Gore a large service town with a Licensing trust who put a lot of sponsorship into racing will not sponsor because there is no return to them. Like most other sponsors. Volunteers who give a lot to all clubs in NZ . What do they do it for. It's a community thing. They are not interested in all that work if another area is going to reap the rewards. Look at Rugby. As soon as you don't us local content you lose interest and this is what these high paid corporate types lose site of. The value of the the unpaid. All they are interested in is the elite. Well if its was not for clubs like Tuapeka Manawatu Roxburgh Gore Wyndham Blenheim etc. there would not be an industry. The top 10 percent is costing us 50 percent of our money. But you won't get them to recognize this because they are the decision makes and the aren't going to chop their own heads off. That's my rant for the day Just the same as the high flyers who deserted farming before covid 19,makes them realise now where the country's solid base is and it ain't in the high rise suit wearing villages. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,070 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 You can add rugby to the same scenario too.only interested in ABs and super rugby,under that it's doing it tough. Bye 4 now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,762 Report post Posted May 20, 2020 16 hours ago, Doggie said: Watch out you dont get one of the dogs bosses,Barsi or Holden would jump at it. Keep up....Barsi is at Auckland. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterEd 323 Report post Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, dkc said: Doing what they are.doing in Southland and Otago. Also Manawatu is hitting the grass roots at their base. Instead of fertilizer they are using tordon. Howdo they expect a club like Tuapeka to go all the way to Oamaru or Invercargill. The locals in this area are not going to travel those distances. Gore a large service town with a Licensing trust who put a lot of sponsorship into racing will not sponsor because there is no return to them. Like most other sponsors. Volunteers who give a lot to all clubs in NZ . What do they do it for. It's a community thing. They are not interested in all that work if another area is going to reap the rewards. Look at Rugby. As soon as you don't us local content you lose interest and this is what these high paid corporate types lose site of. The value of the the unpaid. All they are interested in is the elite. Well if its was not for clubs like Tuapeka Manawatu Roxburgh Gore Wyndham Blenheim etc. there would not be an industry. The top 10 percent is costing us 50 percent of our money. But you won't get them to recognize this because they are the decision makes and the aren't going to chop their own heads off. That's my rant for the day Well said! TurnyTom 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...