Nelli 432 Report post Posted May 16, 2020 Can anyone explain the logic to having 14 back to back Cambridge / Auckland meetings? Even if there was one extra day between meetings some horses may line up on both days. The draft has no back to back meetings at all in Canterbury. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted May 16, 2020 I bet most will tire of the same old same old, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie 326 Report post Posted May 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Nelli said: Can anyone explain the logic to having 14 back to back Cambridge / Auckland meetings? Even if there was one extra day between meetings some horses may line up on both days. The draft has no back to back meetings at all in Canterbury. I can't Nelli Mikie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga 194 Report post Posted May 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Nelli said: Can anyone explain the logic to having 14 back to back Cambridge / Auckland meetings? Even if there was one extra day between meetings some horses may line up on both days. The draft has no back to back meetings at all in Canterbury. Not quite true ..... there are a few Addington/Methven or Addington/Motukarara back to back, an Addington/Methven on the same day, and even an Addington/Addington/Methven on 11 to 13 December in the draft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie 326 Report post Posted May 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, Taku Umanga said: Not quite true ..... there are a few Addington/Methven or Addington/Motukarara back to back, an Addington/Methven on the same day, and even an Addington/Addington/Methven on 11 to 13 December in the draft. There are enouigh horses in Canterbury to sustain that, especially if the Addington meeting is one catering for the better class of horse I don't think there will be enough horses left up North to sustain too many back to back meetings Mikie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga 194 Report post Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Mikie said: There are enouigh horses in Canterbury to sustain that, especially if the Addington meeting is one catering for the better class of horse I don't think there will be enough horses left up North to sustain too many back to back meetings Mikie Can't disagree .... the North has been struggling with this for a long time - just pointing out that there are actually back to back meetings in Canterbury Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Piper 408 Report post Posted May 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Taku Umanga said: Not quite true ..... there are a few Addington/Methven or Addington/Motukarara back to back, an Addington/Methven on the same day, and even an Addington/Addington/Methven on 11 to 13 December in the draft. That will be the Xmas at the races promo, with Xmas work functions . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,536 Report post Posted May 16, 2020 Addington proposal is to race on 77 days during the new season. Totally unsustainable and after a while they will be like Riccarton with 150 patrons on course - ridiculous proposal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,088 Report post Posted May 16, 2020 36 minutes ago, TurnyTom said: Addington proposal is to race on 77 days during the new season. Totally unsustainable and after a while they will be like Riccarton with 150 patrons on course - ridiculous proposal Do they get that many now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted May 17, 2020 I think it's great Turny, It will not only be sustainable, it will revive the industry by allowing owners to actually get some of their costs back by not paying out huge amounts in transport fees plus accomodation costs etc for trainer and driver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie 326 Report post Posted May 17, 2020 I have never had a reply from you before Stables Why did owners have to travel if they were based at Cambridge or Pukekohe? You had races every week, or twice a week So why did they have to travel? Mikie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted May 17, 2020 It's a long way to Stratford, the Manawatu and other Central Districts meetings. You are assuming I come from the upper part of the North Island. You may be wrong about that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie 326 Report post Posted May 17, 2020 Again, you didn’t answer the question I know it is a long way to those meetings I am asking you why did Trainers HAVE to travel to those meetings They could have raced every week at ATC or Cambridhe Why did they HAVE to travel? Can you just answer the question? Mikie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted May 17, 2020 Some are not good enough to race at Alexandra Park, some go there because their trainers/ drivers like to have a bit of a holiday at their owners expense Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie 326 Report post Posted May 17, 2020 OK , so now you are saying that they didn’t HAVE to go there which is not what you stated previously For the record, no horses or connections were forced to travel to the Central Districts They could have had 50 or so strays in a season without leaving ATC or Canbridge Isnt that correct? Mikie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,720 Report post Posted May 17, 2020 I stand corrected but Cambridge to Taranaki would be about 5 hours by float. It takes me about that by car from Auckland so really with much better roads these days it is not overly taxing. The last Stratford meeting some trainers travelled down in the morning of the races and back to Cambridge the same night. Yes it's a long haul but some do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie 326 Report post Posted May 17, 2020 Maybe you are right Elijah, but it doesn’t matter if it took 15 hours The point I am trying to make (well, I’ve made it but Stables is still catching up) is that that no one HAD to travel to the CD to race which was his original assertion Mikie LongOwner 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted May 17, 2020 Can't recall ever using the word have in my posts on this subject. I suggest you show where me if I am wrong Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga 194 Report post Posted May 17, 2020 4 hours ago, eljay said: I stand corrected but Cambridge to Taranaki would be about 5 hours by float. It takes me about that by car from Auckland so really with much better roads these days it is not overly taxing. The last Stratford meeting some trainers travelled down in the morning of the races and back to Cambridge the same night. Yes it's a long haul but some do it. Cambridge to Taranaki = about 3 hours. Cambridge to Manawatu = about 5 hours Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga 194 Report post Posted May 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Stables said: ... some go there because their trainers/ drivers like to have a bit of a holiday at their owners expense That's a bit of a stretch - those "bigger" trainers don't even attend the CD meetings, sending staff down with the horses so hardly "having a holiday at their owners expense" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelli 432 Report post Posted May 17, 2020 I wonder if Cambridge will object to not racing on Christmas eve. Who would go on the 23rd when still a workday? Would they even run their G1 trot? I work in Hamilton and remember the meeting at Claudelands in the 70s being packed with Hamiltonians, including many workmates for which it was their one afternoon of the year at the races. Those were the days .......sigh... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,720 Report post Posted May 17, 2020 13 hours ago, Mikie said: Maybe you are right Elijah, but it doesn’t matter if it took 15 hours The point I am trying to make (well, I’ve made it but Stables is still catching up) is that that no one HAD to travel to the CD to race which was his original assertion Mikie You interpret my statement incorrectly - what I was saying is that if you want to travel it not a big thing and that up to the trainer/owners if they want to - I never said anyone HAD to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie 326 Report post Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, eljay said: You interpret my statement incorrectly - what I was saying is that if you want to travel it not a big thing and that up to the trainer/owners if they want to - I never said anyone HAD to. I didn't interpret your statement incorrectly Eljay, I understood exactly what you were saying FGSM I was agreeing with you Mikie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie 326 Report post Posted May 17, 2020 17 hours ago, Stables said: I think it's great Turny, It will not only be sustainable, it will revive the industry by allowing owners to actually get some of their costs back by not paying out huge amounts in transport fees plus accomodation costs etc for trainer and driver You are playing with words Stables. You said it will help owners by them not paying out huge amounts in transport fess. I asked why did they have to pay out huge amounts? Who was forcing them to pay out these amounts? They could have had nearly 50 starts in a season at ATC & Cambridge. What were these magical powers that made them travel? ie why did they have to? 11 hours ago, Stables said: Can't recall ever using the word have in my posts on this subject. I suggest you show where me if I am wrong Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted May 18, 2020 ???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...