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Barry Lichter

Avondale one of 10 galloping venues frozen out

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9 hours ago, scooby3051 said:

The grass track there is amazing the artificial tracks not so..when they first went in so many horses breaking down and never racing again or having to be put down was unbelievable...same thing will happen here too...just wait and see...unless they are perfect they are unforgiving...lets see who runs for the hills when a few start going bang and the greenies are after them..who will cop the rap for the tracks then...worst decision ever IMO.I have seen the carnage first hand from them....and it aint pretty.

Kranji went from Fibresand to Polytrack in 2008 , what years was your observation from because Fibresand is old tech only now used at Southwell in UK . Watch a race from Southwell then watch a Kempton, Chantilly or Lingfield on poly , it just looks totally different. Southwell just looks rough .

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9 hours ago, scooby3051 said:

The grass track there is amazing the artificial tracks not so..when they first went in so many horses breaking down and never racing again or having to be put down was unbelievable...same thing will happen here too...just wait and see...unless they are perfect they are unforgiving...lets see who runs for the hills when a few start going bang and the greenies are after them..who will cop the rap for the tracks then...worst decision ever IMO.I have seen the carnage first hand from them....and it aint pretty.

Kranji went from Fibresand to Polytrack in 2008 , what years was your observation from because Fibresand is old tech only now used at Southwell in UK . Watch a race from Southwell then watch a Kempton, Chantilly or Lingfield on poly , it just looks totally different. Southwell just looks rough .

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Do I understand this correctly?

No racing at Te Teko, not sure if any horses trained there either, the club don't want to race anywhere else, they are getting together to decide what to do with the asset, it'll be lost as a trials venue (no matter what you think of AWT) , where is the benefit for NZracing out of all of this?

Wouldn't you be better to let those who supply the product decide whether they want to race/Trial there or not.

 

https://thebeacon.co.nz/2020/05/racing-off-at-te-teko/

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42 minutes ago, TurnyTom said:

I would have thought the feeling between Arc and Avondale would stop any discussion 

Ruakaka could be the go for mine

All weather track already there Tom...! Sand based, never gets really wet because of good drainage. Don’t know why they don’t use it more...a hike to get to for some, and local trainers certainly have an advantage, but good track nevertheless.

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ARC don’t “need” Avondale. As for Avondale going to Whangarei - that sort of move would be par for the course with Avondale wouldn’t it? At least the facilities at Ruakaka would be a big improvement and the Avondale Members would have a nice country drive to go to their race meeting rather than an Uber to Ellerslie. 

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24 minutes ago, Ohokaman said:

All weather track already there Tom...! Sand based, never gets really wet because of good drainage. Don’t know why they don’t use it more...a hike to get to for some, and local trainers certainly have an advantage, but good track nevertheless.

Agree Dave but potentially a new major training centre, the simple fact is no one goes to Ellerslie it is a white elephant having fucked up tradition, Derby Day Auckland Cup day etc, so it will never happen at Ellerslie,

Ruakaka has immense appeal, just gotta think differently 

The Avondale Club is very smart and there is no way Arc is on their agenda

Ellerslie can have zilliions in the bank but they get no one attending, it is a joke to suggest they are a flagship as they aint

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45 minutes ago, TurnyTom said:

Agree Dave but potentially a new major training centre, the simple fact is no one goes to Ellerslie it is a white elephant having fucked up tradition, Derby Day Auckland Cup day etc, so it will never happen at Ellerslie,

Ruakaka has immense appeal, just gotta think differently 

The Avondale Club is very smart and there is no way Arc is on their agenda

Ellerslie can have zilliions in the bank but they get no one attending, it is a joke to suggest they are a flagship as they aint

Dunno who you consider the flagship to be Tom ?

But ARC does still hold 5 of NZ's top 10 days as far as turnover concerned.

Plus it has the Great Northern which is still a great race on a pretty good course !

And it averaged 3,000 folk per meeting over 19 meetings ....not bad.

Decrease in oncourse attendees no worse than other tracks !

The top trainers seem to still rank it #1.

And the public facilities would be right up there with best in NZ.

Brilliant new stables area and good viewing .

Unsure what upsets you about the place.

Have you been to Ellerslie lately ?

What courses round out the top 5 in NZ ?

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1 hour ago, TurnyTom said:

Agree Dave but potentially a new major training centre, the simple fact is no one goes to Ellerslie it is a white elephant having fucked up tradition, Derby Day Auckland Cup day etc, so it will never happen at Ellerslie,

Ruakaka has immense appeal, just gotta think differently 

The Avondale Club is very smart and there is no way Arc is on their agenda

Ellerslie can have zilliions in the bank but they get no one attending, it is a joke to suggest they are a flagship as they aint

“The Avondale Club is very smart” you say? Great facilities, big bank balance, crowds to die for etc. yep, they are really smart. Going to Ruakaka would have to be voted on by the membership wouldn’t it? 

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51 minutes ago, Charlie Bukowski said:

FFS, any retard can see Ellerslie needs to race at least every 2nd week all year round.

They are the flagship of the Industry and if they can't race every 2nd week then what chance are we as an Industry ...

The track also needs a complete rebuild (Messara's opinion).

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19 minutes ago, TurnyTom said:

True Stables but Auckland don't go when it is in their backyard, Ellerslie need to race every other week and get minimum crowds of 10,000 but I can't see either happening

We have ave to think differently IMHO

Exactly no virtually no one goes to the races now, even less now the genius are taking away the meetings the public had an actual demand for.

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