mikenz 1,090 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 I have to say I'm disappointed by things racing wont improve with the present lot and the thought process they have Baz (NZ) and Insider 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,090 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, nomates said: I seen the 3rd race they took betting on this morning at 8.30am had $107 in the tote pools , that was W/P , Q , Tri's . Weren't even showing the race , how much profit in this race for the industry , i just don't get it . It is possible the feed comes in for fuck all if anything,what next Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,866 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 Not really the people that caused the problems that are getting the boot is it. Typical I suppose. Dwyn, nomates, Insider and 3 others 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,089 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, mikenz said: That Duke channel is shit mostly although it does have Wimbledon,only time I ever watch it Agree about Duke. We already have 2 free to air trackside channels don't we? arjay and Patiti 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,541 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, We're Doomed said: Not really the people that caused the problems that are getting the boot is it. Typical I suppose. I think this is round one, what I find interesting they have savaged their marketing/advertising arm but place faith in more none descript overseas racing. Cannot balance that, but remind self it is about cost reduction. I hope they seriously review free to air TV as part of a reviewed marketing/advertising arm - IMHO that is elementary to promoting the product and may bring back the tens of thousands of investors they have alienated over the last 5 years or so. They have to attack their current issues boldly and accept earlier decisions we're terribly wrong. nomates and arjay 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,866 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 It will be interesting hearing George calling the dogs. Two of the happiest people will be Tom Wood and Mark Mac. They got out in time. Baz (NZ), 47South, Rusty and 4 others 5 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,089 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 My supermarket stocks 7 brands of dunny rolls. NZRB/RITA thinks that if I expand that to 17 brands my customers will buy and use more and that will overcome the fact that I've now doubled the cost of stock control, ordering, deliveries, restocking etc and had to cut down the shelf space for the baked beans and fresh baked bread to make room for them. Of course my new $50,000 inventory control software should cover that and the $1,700 p.a. annual maintenance costs for that. I only need a good enough selection to stop my customers from shopping elsewhere and be price competitive enough to maybe attract a few more customers so I grow the business. Everyone else in business knows this. Hermione, Pam Robson, THE TORCH and 5 others 7 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz (NZ) 1,722 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 What a bunch of FUCKIN MORONS! Run by suits on hundreds of thousands of dollars who keep their jobs the useless greedy C##TS! Wall To Wall Racing is the last thing the Industry needs! LESS IS MORE YOU MUPPET'S ! They obviously don't regard us as a sport but believe we all have gambling addictions instead. Two flies up a wall anyone??? I am pissed off at this approach to say the least! NZ RACING run by Non racing Suits with no idea! F###WITS! Boss Hogg, Dwyn, shaneMcAlister and 8 others 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 47 minutes ago, TurnyTom said: Yep Harewood good, but they don't have pokies like Shirley so might face the axe They have a bloke that reeks of stale fish though from time to time and I mean proper reeks , and plenty of other real characters . Ohokaman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty 575 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Red Rum said: They have a bloke that reeks of stale fish though from time to time and I mean proper reeks , and plenty of other real characters . Sh!t.... that's me! Sorry mate, will have a spruce up before I go in next. Red Rum and We're Doomed 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 3,608 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 I wonder if any of the people who have made these decisions have heard the saying " quality over quantity " , i'd suggest not . If ever we needed an indicator that things aren't going to change , this is it . They really have no clues about our industry and it's requirements . Huey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 Madness. The clean out should start at the top and work out from there not the other way around. A further retrenching of racing away from the public. Instead of promoting racing and trying to attract people this action will only lead to further alienation of the customers that are left and further erosion of turnover (the opposite of what is needed). scooby3051, Jabba2, nomates and 8 others 10 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOM 1,017 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 1 hour ago, We're Doomed said: It will be interesting hearing George calling the dogs. Two of the happiest people will be Tom Wood and Mark Mac. They got out in time. George has called the dogs before and is very good at it. Peter Early and Trevor Wilkes although having given great service to the industry should both be gone. Their calls are now nothing like what is actually happening on the track., full of inaccuracies and Trev was prone to that all through his career but it is standard expected behaviou now. Poor Old Jason , a logical successor to either or both of the Dogz commentators JTeaz, We're Doomed and Huey 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS26 70 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Leggy said: My supermarket stocks 7 brands of dunny rolls. NZRB/RITA thinks that if I expand that to 17 brands my customers will buy and use more and that will overcome the fact that I've now doubled the cost of stock control, ordering, deliveries, restocking etc and had to cut down the shelf space for the baked beans and fresh baked bread to make room for them. Of course my new $50,000 inventory control software should cover that and the $1,700 p.a. annual maintenance costs for that. I only need a good enough selection to stop my customers from shopping elsewhere and be price competitive enough to maybe attract a few more customers so I grow the business. Everyone else in business knows this. Those annual maintenance costs are $17,000 p.a. aren't they?? Peter R S 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,425 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, MS26 said: Those annual maintenance costs are $17,000 p.a. aren't they?? $17,000,000. You missed the three additional 000's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 Hope they keep the OZ previews and reviews , build ups or it really is just race after race .Get On , thoroughbred weekly and formlines high quality shows imho . Boss Hogg 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,089 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, MS26 said: Those annual maintenance costs are $17,000 p.a. aren't they?? Yeahh, I prorated it. My supermarket only has about 1% of the turnover of the TAB. The TAB equivalent is $17m Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripple alliance 1,026 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 Wall to wall racing , that's been done before . When internationalisation / co mingling kicked off years ago that's what we had , it failed , punters didn't like it and that's why we ended up with 2nd racing channel . Time has moved on , it's now a case of radical change or the end for racing , that goes for all those clubs who refuse to change and contribute as well , let's hope those clubs are next on the chopping block . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jape 344 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 I have aired my views on the other forum. That is the Barry Lichter News Stories and the A to Z of NZ Racing and its demise. I would just add that my main point is that what was lost or disposed of, to be quite blunt, when the Racing Act came into being in 2003 were the people who were PASSIONATE about RACING. They have never been properly replaced. We're Doomed, Huey and Leggy 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjay 451 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 26 minutes ago, tripple alliance said: Wall to wall racing , that's been done before . When internationalisation / co mingling kicked off years ago that's what we had , it failed , punters didn't like it and that's why we ended up with 2nd racing channel . Time has moved on , it's now a case of radical change or the end for racing , that goes for all those clubs who refuse to change and contribute as well , let's hope those clubs are next on the chopping block . I am regular punter, not big for sure, but never ever would consider betting on overseas dogs, or racing from USA. I do not bet anywhere apart from Aussie and NZ Gallops. Harness in NZ on occasions, but rare. Each to his own, but USA and Aussie Dogs? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipsed 250 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 if it is that 30% of those employed by RITA will lose their jobs then the roles of the 70% still remaining will cause some angst Overseas analysis suggests those earning the least are more likely to go. Attached is in $US Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey 2,037 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 1 hour ago, tripple alliance said: Wall to wall racing , that's been done before . When internationalisation / co mingling kicked off years ago that's what we had , it failed , punters didn't like it and that's why we ended up with 2nd racing channel . Time has moved on , it's now a case of radical change or the end for racing , that goes for all those clubs who refuse to change and contribute as well , let's hope those clubs are next on the chopping block . I agree , gonna be great seeing Ellerslie and Te Rapa sell up for the good of the industry. Pam Robson, Insider, nomates and 3 others 4 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,842 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, arjay said: I am regular punter, not big for sure, but never ever would consider betting on overseas dogs, or racing from USA. I do not bet anywhere apart from Aussie and NZ Gallops. Harness in NZ on occasions, but rare. Each to his own, but USA and Aussie Dogs? And you would not be alone there Arjay....why anyone would think bringing in wall to wall racing, most of a low quality that NZ punters have no knowledge of, or affinity with, will increase turnover is kidding themselves. Apart from the form, the early time zones don’t suit either, and anyone that has looked at any of these races from the US and other places and seen the miniscule pools must be wondering what genius thought this was a good idea.... Us taking this stuff may be the quid pro quo for those markets taking our racing, but I have never seen any numbers supporting this... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey 2,037 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 2 hours ago, rdytdy said: Madness. The clean out should start at the top and work out from there not the other way around. A further retrenching of racing away from the public. Instead of promoting racing and trying to attract people this action will only lead to further alienation of the customers that are left and further erosion of turnover (the opposite of what is needed). Agree the restructure looks a disaster for racing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow 229 Report post Posted May 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Chris Wood said: No Radio Trackside, ridiculous, they have made a right royal job this mob of fucking NZ Racing..... Where is there any great ideas to promote racing as they seem hell bent on taking away any logical ways of promoting it. Are they just thinking about the professional punter as the average punter that like a bet will be gone. To me they are just trying to save their own sorry arse from the door with more stupidity and no common sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...